I think we’ve all walked by a giant important point.
These nearly-all-male network state fans have such compelling ideas that women outside their immediate circles would rather Xerox “bits of their bodies” than engage with those ideas. Their outreach “embassy” attracts even fewer women every day. Possibly even an average number rounding to zero.
Right now it seems like their polities will be remembered in the same religious studies lessons that teach about the Shakers.
With so many parts of tech operating like a mixture of religion and fandom this would be the atheistic answer. (This is my diametric opposite of a sneer.)