• Gsus4
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    7 months ago

    That only happens because there is no agreement to create Palestine to establish clearly where Israel ends and Palestine starts. Who opposes that? Hamas and neofascist settlers. They feed each other to make sure that there is no solution, so hamas can still aim for its goal of destroying Israel and the fascists in Israel can keep taking advantage of the legal limbo of undefined borders.

    Hamas just needs to accept that they won’t go to hell for accepting that Israel is not going anywhere and Israel just needs to return to its 1967 borders and recall all the illegal settlers, then they can move onto progressively returning full sovereignty to Palestine provided no more attacks are launched from there.

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      7 months ago

      Dude, Arafat recognised Israel in '93 as head of the PLO. All that would have been left was this:

      Israel just needs to return to its 1967 borders and recall all the illegal settlers

      Guess what they didn’t.

      Your simple “all that would need to be done” remark was fulfilled by the Palestinians 30 years ago. This whole argument of “Hamas just needs to recognise Israel” is literally decades behind, we’ve been there but Israel just didn’t do their part. I’m not saying Hamas isn’t a terrorist bunch of fucks and the October 7th attacks were obviously vile, inhumane terror. But your “solution” was already unilaterally rejected by Israel, so please come up with something better if you’re seriously suggesting this “both sides need to calm down” crap.

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      7 months ago

      There is no agreement to recognise Palestine because Israel is a settler colonial power since its inception. And is backed by other colonisers.

      See: The Neglected History of the State of Israel - The Revisionist faction of Zionism that ended up triumphing adhered to literal fascist doctrines and traditions.

      I USE THE WORD “FASCIST” in the literal sense. Do not flinch from it. The founders of Revisionist Zionism certainly didn’t. Respect them enough to take them at their word.

      In 1928, a prominent Revisionist named Abba Ahimeir published a series of articles entitled “From the Diary of a Fascist.” They refer to the founder of their movement, Ze’ev Jabotinsky (his adopted first name is Hebrew for “wolf”), as “il duce.” In 1935, his comrade Hen Merhavia wrote that Revisionists were doing what Mussolini did: “establish a nucleus of an exemplary life of morality and purity. Like us, the Italian fascists look back to their historical heritage. We seek to return to the kingdom of the House of David; they want to return to the glory of the Roman Empire.” They even opened a maritime academy in Italy, under Mussolini’s sponsorship, for the navy they hoped to build in their new Israeli state. “[T]he views and the political and social inclinations of the Revisionists,” an Italian magazine reported, “are absolutely in accordance with the fascist doctrine … as our students they will bring the Italian and fascist culture to Palestine.”

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        7 months ago

        Sehr interessanter Artikel von einem sehr interessanten Autor. Danke dafür

        Sorry: Very interesting article from a very interesting author. Thank you for sharing

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          7 months ago

          I appreciate you say that. I only wish any of the downvoting people would right a comment on why or what they didn’t like, to further the conversation.