Got greeted with this message today. I’ve been playing Apex on linux for more than a year. Not sure if this could be related? Is this just me?
I’ve contested the ban and I’m currently waiting for a response from ea support.
UPDATE : Got an email response from EA today. It’s basically a generic message saying that my account was associated with “cheating practices” and so they will not remove the ban.
This is absolutely fucking ridiculous! I’ve been playing this game since 2020 and have 3K+ hours on record, now this shit happens and there’s no recourse ? Fuck this company.
Cheaters make appeal request all the time. I admin for some game servers and never seen a vpn cause a false positive. As a matter of fact most cheaters use vpns to try and play on servers that dont allow vac bans by purchased/stolen/newsteam accounts. Only you and god know the truth but Im going off experience.
Look at where you are at “linux_gaming” proton is not a vpn, but a wine wrapper. I get warnings all the time from Apex’s anticheat “failing” havent been banned, but wouldnt suprise me it would cause a false positive.
Proton is a VPN, but yes, that’s not what was referenced here
Proton VPN is way more popular than Proton wine wrapper just saying!
Look buddy, I know that using circular logic to try and presume and decide that someone is a cheater may fly on Steamcommunity, 4chan, and kiwifarms but it doesn’t fly here on Lemmy, so while such an argument might get people to nod their heads on those places, it’s not going to work out here.
The people here are technically savvy, and also privy to many of the deceptive and manipulative tactics used by people like you to foster ill will against other players who in reality didn’t do anything wrong.
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You sound like most of the trolls I see on places like 4chan and kiwi who assume or make up awful shit about people to justify their behavior towards them. What’s more important is that you don’t have any proof OP is a bad-faith actor. You’re fostering ill-will of someone based on an assumption. Oh wait you’re going to say that you blieve that the “proof” is that other people do it so therefore OP did it? Yeah that’s called circular logic, you are making an assumption about the OP and then coming to the conclusion based on that assumption. We’ve seen trolls do this all the time, it’s a common tactic and it does indeed sometimes work on those who don’t recognize the fallacy, or those who are afraid of standing up, two things that are absolutely not the case here in this community, people do recognize the fallacy, and people here aren’t afraid to stand up against people who are fostering ill-will towards others without merit.
You dont even know this guy… yet you are so sure he is not cheating… lmfao
Proof = he was banned its the OP picture! You have 0 proof he did not cheat and you dont know him but here you are so sure he “dindu nuffin” wrong and Im a bad guy.
Proof he was banned isn’t proof he is a cheater, that’s the circular logic but I’m sure you know that already. I am definitely sure of one thing though, you are a troll, a bad-faith actor, or both, trying to foster ill-will towards an individual you do not know based on faulty logic, when in reality you couldn’t prove the claims you make against him, even if your life depended on it.
You also are mischaracterizing and making bad-faith assumptions because people aren’t willing to take your lies and logical fallacies as “the truth”. The fact of the matter is, you cannot prove that OP cheated, all you can do is assume he did and use the fact he was banned as justification for it being true, drawing conclusion from the assumption without any evidence. That isn’t a real argument, that is you trying to phrase your own assumption based on nothing at all as if it were an indisputable fact. Which it clearly is not.
Where is your proof he is not cheating??? You call this circular conversation because you cant prove that he is not cheating anymore than I can. The only thing we know for sure is that his account is banned.
I been playing video games all my life and I have never been banned. Believe what ever you want to believe just don’t try and feed me shit about a topic Im very fluent in.
Yet you sit here trying to argue that OP IS a cheater and you cannot prove it, you sit here trying to foster ill will towards OP. No one needs to prove OP isn’t a cheater, OP doesn’t need to try and prove this to you either, much less to you. You however need to cough up the proof that he is though, otherwise it is an unmerited accusation on your own assumptions, in other-words a baseless claim. No one owes anyone proof that their baseless accusations aren’t true, especially to random dudes online such as yourself.
Thanks captain obvious, no one is contesting or trying to argue otherwise. If you feel they are you either misread/misunderstood something or are deliberately misrepresenting as part of a bad faith argument to attack arguments we never made, typically called a strawman argument.
Translation: You’ve been unchallenged for many years in your claims that random players who were banned must in fact be cheaters and you’re upset that someone is finally challenging and calling out your faulty arguments with facts and logic, and pointing out exactly why they are faulty arguments, typically made in bad faith by trolls. Something that is not only uncomfortable for you but also weakens future arguments you may make since people know the trick and aren’t going to be as likely to submit without challenging you.
I can prove it…open your eyes and see picture OP posted ill even read it for you. “Permanently banned” the definition of permanently is for ever. You are not challenging shit!
Ok, so in Good faith I have proof that he was banned and again permanently banned. Do you know what happens the first time you cheat and get caught?? You dont get a permanent ban the 1st offense.
But keep defending a total stranger!
How exactly does one prove a negative? Juggling fallacies isn’t a good look, my friend.
You defend cheaters blind you aint my friend. The only fallacy here is the OP was banned for no reason. Didu nuffin!
Lmao you can’t be real. Ignorance is bliss, I suppose.
This person is for sure a troll, or a corporate shill. Either way not someone who has any credibility at all.
News flash you alone doesn’t mean everyone. I mean the ego you gotta have to think that way….
The fact that you’re getting railed here with your top comment sitting comfortably at a score of -26 says that people here aren’t agreeing with you. That they aren’t believing or listening to your takes as much as you’d wish they were. News flash, Lemmy doesn’t handle people simping or siding with known malicious corporations very well. It may fly on Reddit and especially Steam community but it doesn’t here.
Ohh its real like the OP ban!
That might be relevant if OP was talking about using Proton VPN, but they’re talking about Proton, the compatibility layer shipped with Steam for Linux.
There are a ton of documented cases where bans falsely identify Linux users as cheaters, and later many (most?) of those bans get overturned. It seems to come in waves (likely an anti-cheat update), and it’s annoying every time.
My solution is to just not play games with anti-cheat, because there’s no way I’m going back to Windows, and there’s also no way I’m going to play the ban/appeal game. My time is worth more than that.
That guy’s a classic case of a troll who doesn’t want to accept that they are wrong about their initial assumption and just keeps moving the goal posts hoping they win the argument eventually. They also really want to believe that OP is a bad person and will use anything they can to try and justify it, including logical fallacies and misrepresentation.