I genuinely do not know who the bad guys are. S lot of my leftist friends are against Israel, but from what I know Israel was attacked and is responding and trying to get their hostages back.

Enlighten me. Am I wrong? Why am I wrong?

And dumb it down for me, because apparently I’m an idiot.

  • NastyNativeEnglish
    113·
    2 个月前

    They are the israeli and Palestinians civilians that just want peace. The majority of the people in these 2 countries just want peace. A year+ of war is not ez or good for anything.

    • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
      2·
      2 个月前

      It’s not two countries and you have a delusional idea of what the average settler is like if you think they want peace. Crossing the line to nazi apologia.

      Unless of course you’re saying that the Muslim population, which is the suppressed majority under the evil apartheid state, want peace. Then and only then would you be correct.

      • NastyNativeEnglish
        12·
        2 个月前

        We see the majority of israelis on TV as for this war. The reality is that most of them rather have peace. Its a few really bad apples that are pusing for this genocide. You really think an israel wants war on all their front? Bombs falling on their cities. War is always a few old men arguing and a shit load of young men dying. If we were just to get rid of the people pushing for this including US weapons manufacturers. This war would be over tomorrow!

        • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
          11·
          2 个月前

          Get out of your mind palace. What makes sense for you in abstract is not how things always are and certainly they are not in this instance. Look at the polling for how they see the genocide. They are overwhelmingly in support of it. Look at the dynamic of the West Bank. People move there specifically to steal land. This is a self selecting group of people. It is a nazi country.

          • NastyNativeEnglish
            12·
            2 个月前

            I’m in no way supporting Israel on their genocide. I’m not in isreal and I have not seen pollings. I’m going by the conversation Ive had with jewish people here in the us and they tell me all the time. They are not in favor of the war and neither are their families in Israel. The settlers and the army don’t represent most people in Israel thats all I’m saying.

            • AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.mlEnglish
              11·
              2 个月前

              Okay well I believe that but please please please don’t conflate Jewish people and the fascist state of Israel again

    • Greyfoxsolid@lemmy.worldOP
      1·
      2 个月前

      Many civilians probably prefer peace, but it seems like each side wants peace on their own terms which seem at odds with the other sides terms.

      I could be wrong.

      I hope I am, and that the vast majority just want to settle everything peacefully.