• NastyNative
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    1 month ago

    Just let WW3 start… as long as you don’t have to fight right?

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      1 month ago

      Just let russia anex whoever they want right? As long as they don’t anex your country?

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        1 month ago

        That is likely to be the outcome if this war is allowed to persist.

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            1 month ago

            Ukraine is currently unable to halt Russia’s advances.

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              1 month ago

              They would be if they had the support they needed. They have a will to defend their homes and land and loved ones from the invaders. They don’t want to roll over to russias colonialism.

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                1 month ago

                Should we allow Russia to take Ukraine, or should we explore avenues for peace and work towards ending this conflict? You advocate for continued fighting, but are you truly prepared to support Ukraine in its struggle, or are you content to remain passive while Ukrainians continue to suffer? A vindictive stance only serves to escalate the crisis and perpetuate further chaos.

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                  1 month ago

                  No we shouldn’t allow russia to take over Ukraine. Hence the support from other nations. There was peace before russias colonial ambitions made them invade. Russia wants peace to re arm and re equip so they can do it again. And then they will slowly eat away at their neighbors, causing even more death and destruction. Ukraine will suffer unless russia goes back to it’s pre 2012 borders. You want perpetual and further chaos, choose the route of appeasement.

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      1 month ago

      Russia is the one trying to start WW3, but what, any attempt to say “no, bad country” is being a warmonger?

      The hope is always to prevent escalation, but you cant sit idly by while things spiral out of control. No one wants war, and it always comes at a cost of innocent lives. We need to focus on ways to prevent it… which means being willing to spray the dog with water and say “no, bad dog”.

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        1 month ago

        How is this escalation truly playing out? Ukraine has already lost significant ground and continues to do so daily. The U.S. persists in escalating the situation, prompting Russia to retaliate with even greater force. At this stage, we are no longer serving Ukraine’s best interests—they have become a proxy in a larger geopolitical struggle. It’s heartbreaking to see the toll on the Ukrainian people. Perhaps it’s time to prioritize lives over land, even if it means conceding territory, to prevent further loss and suffering. At this pace, Russia may ultimately gain control over the entirety of Ukraine.

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          1 month ago

          Its so weird that you see the USA ‘escalating the situation’, not the ukranian people trying to defend themselves. Weird that, huh?

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            1 month ago

            The Ukrainian people face an overwhelming challenge in defending against Russia, and it’s increasingly clear that their ability to withstand this aggression is limited. Do you truly believe that sending more Ukrainians to their deaths in a war they cannot win is preferable to pursuing peace? Such a stance seems misguided. From the safety and comfort of our homes, it’s easy to advocate for continued fighting, especially as the holidays approach, but the human cost of this conflict cannot be ignored.

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              1 month ago

              i dont beleive its my choice, or the americans choice, but is instead the choice of Ukraine and the Ukranian people.

              What IS our choice is whether we support them, or let them fight without support.

              What makes you the right person to chose for an entire foreign nation?