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Summary:

The whole post seems strange to me, what do you all think?

Additional context: https://fedihosting.foundation/lw-team/

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    8 hours ago

    I’ve seen a lot of LW users behaving like this.

    They want a single comm per topic, preferably in LW; and everyone should go to that comm, no dissidence allowed. Always talking about “not splitting efforts”, or some FUD like “unless we gather together Lemmy will never succeed”.

    And, when you tell them a clear “no”, they throw a tantrum. Like Serinus did there.

    I think that they got out of Reddit, but they didn’t get Reddit out of themselves. They still behave like this was a Reddit-like monolithic platform; so when they see decentralisation - like multiple comms for the same topic, in different instances - they treat it as a bug, when it’s a feature.

    Anyway, I’d call that FAPTB (failed attempt of powertripping). EDIT: wow, they removed your mention of the other comm! Talk about pettiness. PTB.

    • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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      8 hours ago

      I think that they got out of Reddit, but they didn’t get Reddit out of themselves. They still behave like this was a Reddit-like monolithic platform; so when they see decentralisation - like multiple comms for the same topic, in different instances - they treat it as a bug, when it’s a feature.

      Maybe we should point them out to Discuit and their 181 weekly active users: https://discuit.net/DiscuitMeta/post/NlAdOWAp

      Some people indeed don’t seem to understand that if Lemmy has 43k monthly active users, it’s thanks to the different instances and community. Would ml been a single forum, most of the people wouldn’t have even registered. LW could have a decent following, but the regular debatable policy updates would have probably pushed people away.

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        Sounds like Discuit should add apub integration. At this day and age it honestly baffles me that people like the devs of raddle and discuit go all like “No we don’t want to talk to anyone else. You have to join our walled garden!”

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          There are at least 4 or 5 forums on /r/Redditalternatives which could definitely benefit from ActivityPub, but they don’t see the appeal.

          One of them even asks for people credit card information to avoid bots

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            There are at least 4 or 5 forums on /r/Redditalternatives which could definitely benefit from ActivityPub, but they don’t see the appeal.

            Ye I know, it’s fucking bizarre. Every 6 months, a new reddit alternative comes up which doesn’t have apub and expects to get user by sheer charm or smt.

            One of them even asks for people credit card information to avoid bots

            Lol, at an age where people are preconditioned to assume this means a subscription lock-in and the rest don’t even own one, I wonder how many people took them up on that offer.

            I also love the naivety of thinking $3 once will stop spammers. As if that wouldn’t be a perfectly cheap amount to pay to spam all their users if they had a lot of them. Twitter has $8 a pop and it’s innundated with spam

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              Ye I know, it’s fucking bizarre. Every 6 months, a new reddit alternative comes up which doesn’t have apub and expects to get user by sheer charm or smt.

              Well put. It’s a bit disheartening, because people put time and energy in those projects, that could be used to develop the existing open source platforms…

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                7 hours ago

                Software devs and their “I can build this better from scratch in one weekend” mentality, mate…

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                  4 hours ago

                  Maybe its old age and laziness, but at least 99 times out of 100 I think “someone else built this better from scratch in a weekend, I should check some git repos first”.

                  If I find nothing, start a project, get it functional, and then randomly run across exactly what I’m looking for (or close enough with minor updates I can send upstream).

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                It’s a bit disheartening, because people put time and energy in those projects, that could be used to develop the existing open source platforms…

                Okay so while true, this is also highly ironic given the nature of the OP.😜

                I’ll restate your words as “instead of splitting our efforts, why not contribute towards enhancing the existing options…?” (I know the answer, I’m just saying it’s ironic 😛)

                • Blaze (he/him)@feddit.orgOP
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                  5 hours ago

                  That’s fair 😄 As stated in the OP, in this case there is no effort to join on the LW community unfortunately 😅

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                    I don’t know the game so therefore why you’d want to promote a second community for it, but if you feel that you want to, then go for it! But yeah you definitely seemed to have pissed off the owner of the previous one, so I’m not sure it’s worth that - and yet with all the delays in federation of content (not only to Australia and New Zealand but also I’ve definitely been impacted by it several times in the USA) I do see that there is some value there.

                    I almost wonder if it’s worth offering to hand the new community over to Serinus if all you want is to help move some communities off of Lemmy.World. On the other hand, there are so many problems with that like how cross-instance mod reports don’t federate yet, and there seems to be some special reason (the specific computer coding) to keep that particular one on Lemmy.World.

                    In that case then, is there any reason why Serinus should be particularly happy about you having created the other community, without consulting them first? All the more reason to not go into their community then and post advertisements to move over to the new one? Even if you meant well, Serinus may not see the same value in that which you do, so I think that was a bit of a mistake on your part. Even as Serinus’ reactions here and there are on them (which I told them as well, directly).

                    You might rather enjoy working together to achieve both of your aims rather than being at odds with one another… ofc you do you, and whatever you feel you must, I just hoped that might spark something in you, even if I am too far removed to fully see all of the situation to make an accurate judgement call.:-)