I am not a programmer. … I’m a random with a chimp avatar. … It’s just that [Hellwig] prioritises consistency (for the sake of maintainability)…

Pick a side and stick to it.

There’s no “two sides” here. I’m transparently saying that what I say should not be trusted, for those two reasons (1. not a programmer, 2. not in charge of this), and I’m still voicing my opinion on this matter, while focusing on other aspects of the discussion. Is this clear now?

Note: one of those two reasons likely apply to everyone else here.

You seem very keen to endorse Hellwig’s arguments

If anything I could be blamed for the exact opposite - endorsing R4L. You don’t even need to read this comment to see it, the comment that you’re replying to is enough: “And if Hellwig cannot be convinced, the leadership can, and should.”

Learn the difference between “talking about what others said” and “endorsing what others said”.

despite not understanding them,

Assumption: “not a programmer = unable to understand what’s going on”. I think that I showed well through this thread this is blatantly false.

and also to emit words on the topic despite not having a qualified opinion

Refer to the first paragraph.

It’s also relevant to note that, most likely, nobody here has the “kwalifikashuns” to discuss this topic. Not even programmers - because odds are that nobody here is in a position to change anything about it.

It sounds like you want me to not take you seriously

Okay… so far, so good.

(so that I won’t reply to you)

*rolls eyes* assumption, again. Clearly assuming why I’m being dismissive towards you.

It has zero to do with me not wanting to be taken seriously. It’s because you show blatant lack of basic reading comprehension, while still saying this “I’m docking you” cringe. For example, vomiting an info dump that does not contradict a single shred of what I said (as if it contradicted), or with a hypothetical that is clearly irrelevant (“if it was a slur” - it is not, period).

Worth noting: nobody here has in a position to “dock lol” anyone else here.

and also take you seriously (so that you are counted as part of the programming public.)

Assumption…

Quoting Gaynor: [insert quote]

Cool beans. And this does not contradict what I said, because contrariwise to what you are assuming = making shit up, I am not endorsing Hellwig’s view that Rust does not belong to the kernel, I am explaining his point of view while clearly saying “okay, Rust in the kernel seems fine, based on what people said here, but Martin is creating drama”.

I couldn’t be arsed to read the rest of the text. Other users are able to provide information about Rust here, so I’m not missing anything, minus the cringe and assumptions.