They pass it NOW and not decades ago due to the influence Christianity has there, where the cultural push is heavy as fuck, and here’s a need for queer activism for their rights thanks to the religious institutions still being a big, unresolved contradiction, which I have been saying on and on in this forum.
And even more, the reason they got the opportunity to pass this, is because a hurricane warning made the majority of voters stay home, while basically all the queer people, being chad as fuck, went, voted, and used this opportunity to gain at last civil rights that it’s still worrying as fuck how is it that a socialist country has to face this sort of classism until today, when some liberals country didn’t push queer people to be outcasts this much precisely because the influence of religion is weaker.
But please, let’s keep defending religious institutions after that and saying that they ain’t a bastion for classism, idealism ans reactiinarism even under socialism systems like they do in liberal ones.
I agree with your overarching point but no, the majority of people did not stay home and I find your lack of faith in the Cuban people somewhat disagreeable.
The religious hegemon is certainly what led to it being as close as it was, but a 74% turnout of eligible voters with 67% of them voting yes is not what I would consider a minority opinion winning out.
I hope I didn’t come across poorly. I respect you and agree with much of what you wrote. I’m just in awe of the major cultural waves happening in the socialist world, stemming from millions (hundreds of millions globally!) of socialist-minded people, and love to see participation so high. Makes me hopeful.
Oh, don’t worry. I wish I was wrong with everything else I said, not just the poll thing.
But I find it hard to believe as not alarming how the socialist mindset you said has been so slow into getting better in these issues when before the fall of the USSR, it was a vanguard regarding it.
I think I would consider it more… disappointing, than alarming, insofar as socialist nations should obviously be less hostile to LGBT people. But cultural revolution doesn’t happen overnight, and the socialist parties in charge, nay the LGBT comrades and allies in said parties, are leading the way to bringing further social equality in China, DPRK, Vietnam, Cuba, and Laos. We are privy to the fact that Vietnam will have a similar referendum to Cuba’s in the near future, and China is progressively getting better on the issue. Due to deliberate obfuscation, we don’t know exactly what moves are being made in Laos and the DPRK, if any. But these nations’ cultural histories are also vastly different from our own, and their relationship to such forms of oppression will have to be tackled from a distinctly native perspective.
There’s some evidence that a factor in the USSR’s downfall was geriatocracy and growing political disillusionment of the youth. I’ve seen similar accusations levied against Cuba in the modern age, yet I believe we are seeing the opposite. Much of the socialist youth world-round know what’s at stake and are more passionate than ever to preserve the socialist dream. As more forward-thinking, younger politicians who have grown up learning advanced Marxist theory and practice in the classroom and out find themselves further integrated into ruling communist parties, we will certainly see more progressive changes like the family code. The socialist world is getting there, we must have faith in the people.
They pass it NOW and not decades ago due to the influence Christianity has there, where the cultural push is heavy as fuck, and here’s a need for queer activism for their rights thanks to the religious institutions still being a big, unresolved contradiction, which I have been saying on and on in this forum. And even more, the reason they got the opportunity to pass this, is because a hurricane warning made the majority of voters stay home, while basically all the queer people, being chad as fuck, went, voted, and used this opportunity to gain at last civil rights that it’s still worrying as fuck how is it that a socialist country has to face this sort of classism until today, when some liberals country didn’t push queer people to be outcasts this much precisely because the influence of religion is weaker.
But please, let’s keep defending religious institutions after that and saying that they ain’t a bastion for classism, idealism ans reactiinarism even under socialism systems like they do in liberal ones.
I agree with your overarching point but no, the majority of people did not stay home and I find your lack of faith in the Cuban people somewhat disagreeable.
The religious hegemon is certainly what led to it being as close as it was, but a 74% turnout of eligible voters with 67% of them voting yes is not what I would consider a minority opinion winning out.
https://www.telesurtv.net/news/Family-Code-Goes-Into-Effect-in-Cuba-20220927-0014.html
Well, I love being proven wrong, comrade.
I hope I didn’t come across poorly. I respect you and agree with much of what you wrote. I’m just in awe of the major cultural waves happening in the socialist world, stemming from millions (hundreds of millions globally!) of socialist-minded people, and love to see participation so high. Makes me hopeful.
Oh, don’t worry. I wish I was wrong with everything else I said, not just the poll thing.
But I find it hard to believe as not alarming how the socialist mindset you said has been so slow into getting better in these issues when before the fall of the USSR, it was a vanguard regarding it.
I think I would consider it more… disappointing, than alarming, insofar as socialist nations should obviously be less hostile to LGBT people. But cultural revolution doesn’t happen overnight, and the socialist parties in charge, nay the LGBT comrades and allies in said parties, are leading the way to bringing further social equality in China, DPRK, Vietnam, Cuba, and Laos. We are privy to the fact that Vietnam will have a similar referendum to Cuba’s in the near future, and China is progressively getting better on the issue. Due to deliberate obfuscation, we don’t know exactly what moves are being made in Laos and the DPRK, if any. But these nations’ cultural histories are also vastly different from our own, and their relationship to such forms of oppression will have to be tackled from a distinctly native perspective.
There’s some evidence that a factor in the USSR’s downfall was geriatocracy and growing political disillusionment of the youth. I’ve seen similar accusations levied against Cuba in the modern age, yet I believe we are seeing the opposite. Much of the socialist youth world-round know what’s at stake and are more passionate than ever to preserve the socialist dream. As more forward-thinking, younger politicians who have grown up learning advanced Marxist theory and practice in the classroom and out find themselves further integrated into ruling communist parties, we will certainly see more progressive changes like the family code. The socialist world is getting there, we must have faith in the people.
Well, I can’t negate what you just said, so I will just wait for the Socialist work to become a better place.