• M0oP0o
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    9 hours ago

    Second highest voter turn out for a presidential election in US history.

    Clearly its the voters fault…

    Also why in the broken nation is the assumption that if more people showed up they would have voted like you? I never got this concept. Please spend more effort being an opposition/resistance and less being poor losers.

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      It is pathetic that among high voter suppression (due to Republican motions) the Democrats blame the people for not voting, instead of blaming voter suppression, or any of the other decades worth of inaction by Democrats to foresee and prepare for this. They have a two party system, it’s not like the Republicans were a complete surprise

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      9 hours ago

      Millions of people who voted for Biden in 2020 didn’t show up to vote for Harris in 2024.

      Trump’s numbers barely changed at all between the two.

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        And I can’t say that I blame them. Biden’s presidency… or his campaign… or Harris’ campaign…

        It was a shit-show all the way through. Maybe next time the Democrats should try catering to their voter base.

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          And I can’t say that I blame them.

          “I know fascism is bad, but I understand allowing it - I mean, look how uninspired the other option was!”

          Yeah, this is exactly why we’re in this position.

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          19 Million primary voters picked Biden in 2024.

          He won the primary, as has every incumbent for many many decades.

          We failed them, not the other way around.

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        9 hours ago

        Yes, and that does not imply what the democrats think it does.

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          8 hours ago

          It doesn’t imply anything, it’s a fact that Voters chose fascism and now they’re facing the consequences.

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            8 hours ago

            Yes, we all are. I am just sick of this pretending they did not.

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        I hate the us government as much as the next invasion target, but this stupid tribalism has gotten out of hand. Was this the inevitable result of a two party system (a joke pretending to be a democracy)? Maybe, but the very idea that I am expected to “pick a side” even as a outsider and that once I do half of the us will write me off is laughable.

        America, you did this. Stop trying to make it someone else’s fault.

        If we are to assume that there was voting suppression, do something about it!

        If we are to assume that there was voting fraud, do something about it!

        If we are to assume that the majority of americans did not want the current administration, then do something about it!

        This should be a no brainier if you have the majority of americans against this then you should have the will and ability to do something about it.
        But you clearly don’t have the majority of your nations people behind you in this, most likely don’t care enough (a side effect of that two party system) or and this might shock you, that the majority of americans are really just that awful and want to watch the free world burn.

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        Why did you cut out the VEP? The very next column…

        it stands for Voting Eligible Population by the way.

        Edit, for those not willing to click a link here is the picture not cut off:

        Notice how there are 3 measurements of voter turn out? Two of which show this to have been the second highest turn out? Now does this show a larger then there should be level of disenfranchisement? Yes, so fix that!

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          I cut off the VEP because I mistook the voting age population for the voting eligible population and now that you pointed that out (thank you by the way) I’m looking into why there’s such a difference between those two numbers.

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            8 hours ago

            Its people that have lost the right/ability to vote. Most likely due to the terrible american for profit prison system.

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                8 hours ago

                It was not included before it was invented, it was also not needed as the level of voter disenfranchisement was not yet an issue. It is now the standard metric (since you guys have so many people that are barred from voting).

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                    8 hours ago

                    It only does that if you sort by VAP, and that metric just does not hold up when an estimated 4.4 million adults can not vote. But these are all issues that neither party cared to address for the last 40 years so I don’t think anyone can claim the high horse.

                    If you look at the the 1960 (JFK vs Nixon) then maybe if they had VEP then it could have been another barn burner to compare.