• Lvxferre
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    6
    arrow-down
    1
    ·
    edit-2
    10 months ago
    Aeneas and his chiefs,
    with fair Iulus, under spreading boughs
    of one great tree made resting-place, and set
    the banquet on. Thin loaves of altar-bread
    along the sward to bear their meats were laid
    (such was the will of Jove), and wilding fruits
    rose heaping high, with Ceres' gift below.
    Soon, all things else devoured, their hunger turned
    to taste the scanty bread, which they attacked
    with tooth and nail audacious, and consumed
    both round and square of that predestined leaven.
    “Look, how we eat our tables even!” cried
    Iulus, in a jest.
    

    This is from a translation of the Aeneid, published in 19 BCE.

    and this is from Pompeii, buried in 79 CE.

    Pizza is at the very least Roman, if not older. (Potentially Greek.)

    And before someone mentions tomatoes, pizza bianca is a thing.

    • Stovetop@lemmy.world
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      4
      ·
      10 months ago

      Admittedly it doesn’t take much creative thinking to come up with the idea of “bread with stuff on it”.

      It’d be pretty different from what we think of as pizza today though with no tomatoes or mozzarella.

      • Lvxferre
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        10 months ago

        That’s why I mentioned pizza bianca / white pizza - it doesn’t include passata or tomato sauce, but it’s still pizza.

        Cheese being added to the pizza is a bit trickier, but I’m tempted to say that the Romans already did this; they were big fans of cheese, and the white stuff in the afresco looks a lot like sheep cheese for me. And, well, cheese melting over hot bread is kind of obvious. Plus there are claims that mozzarella itself backtracks to those times, although it was originally made with sheep milk.

        • Stovetop@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          10 months ago

          Likely not used on pizza though, I’d imagine. But a cheese like feta, which would have been more common, would probably still taste great.

          • Lvxferre
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            10 months ago

            I could also picture them spreading some moretum (crushed cheese with herbs and olive oil, it’s rather tasty) over the dough. The white thing in the afresco is certainly not moretum as the later is green, but frankly that doesn’t sound too far from what I’ve seen people adding to pizza bianca.