I asked if people chose iPhone for the blue bubbles elsewhere a couple days ago, and while there was some good discourse on that post, the blue bubbles definitely also came up as a reason.

In my experience, when people find out my texts are green, they oftentimes would rather switch to a different platform altogether like Instagram or just not text at all.

Is this actually a deal-breaker in friendships out there?

  • ZettaEnglish
    381·
    1 year ago

    Apple is deliberately not supporting the global standard of RCS for exactly thai reason. They want green bubbles to stay.

      • spartanatreyu@programming.devEnglish
        1·
        1 year ago

        You’re both right and wrong.

        Right:

        1. Google does have a management problem that incentivizes creating new messenger apps instead of supporting existing services, this has nothing to do with RCS though.
        2. Google is trolling Apple.

        Wrong:

        1. RCS is not a downgrade to Apple’s proprietary protocol (unless you consider sending a laser show screen overlay animation as a specific feature, and not an easter egg)
        2. Everyone inside only Apple or only RCS has the same features (message reactions, high quality media, x is typing, seen timestamps, etc…)
        3. RCS is open, Apple’s protocols are proprietary. No one but Apple can access their own proprietary protocols. Apple could support RCS if they wanted to. Apple is entirely responsible for the friction between their own protocol and RCS.

        Prediction:

        Apple will continue trying to control their own bubble to force people to purchase iPhones as long as possible. They will attempt to stall any EU regulations on standardized messaging with deceptive rebuttable that will take politicians time to realise that they hold no real weight. Eventually those arguments will be pulled apart and Apple will be forced to include a future RCS version as a supported fallback. (just like how the EU is forcing apple to allow third-party app stores, and USB-C connections)

          • spartanatreyu@programming.devEnglish
            1·
            1 year ago

            E2E:

            As far as I understand, Google wants to treat RCS similar to how it treats web:

            1. Have a standard
            2. experiment with some extensions
            3. learn what works and what doesn’t
            4. build what works into the standard
            5. repeat

            In that case, e2e encryption is coming to RCS.

            I know Samsung is also experimenting with e2e encryption too.

            Other:

            iMessage itself also has more features than RCS. Built in e2ee would be a big one, and aome other more vain ones.

            What other notable features (besides e2e which is discussed above) does iMessage have?

            […] Signal or even WhatsApp would still be superior.

            (Besides e2e,) What features to Signal and/or WhatsApp provide?