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      Look why don’t we just point this out, which is a pretty obvious hole in all this.

      Do you really think the Affordable Care Act would be the way it is if they ever had the majority needed to codify Roe?

      They spent literal years getting filibustered.

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        Absolutely. This is the group that never put the public option on the table to begin with as a show of “good faith bipartisanship”. Which netted them zero votes. We can argue whether Democrats don’t know how to fight or just don’t want to. But for now the result is the same. A few are finally starting to walk the walk and not just talk the talk. But they’re still a minority.

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        111th Congress (2009–2011)

        Majority Party: Democrats (57 seats)
        Minority Party: Republicans (41 seats)
        Other Parties: 1 Independent; 1 Independent Democrat (both caucused with the Democrats)

        Total Seats: 100

        Note: Senator Arlen Specter was reelected in 2004 as a Republican, and became a Democrat on April 30, 2009. Senator Joseph Lieberman of Connecticut was reelected in 2006 as an independent candidate, and became an Independent Democrat. Senator Bernard Sanders of Vermont was elected in 2006 as an Independent.

        Source: https://www.senate.gov/history/partydiv.htm

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          You spent all that time typing a reply yet you didn’t even read my source…

          He never had 60 present to overcome the filibuster and only passed ACA because Joe fucking Lieberman was bribed by the insurance industry to remove the public option. You should edit your posts for factual accuracy.

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            Oh I read it, written by Gov. Jennifer M. Granholm.

            And if your party member is incapable of voting then he should have resigned a long fucking time ago. That’s on them for not forcing him out. The same way Ruth Bader Ginsburg should have resigned due to her failing health instead of clinging to last vestiges of power.

            I guess you are going to defend Sen. Dianne Feinstein now too, when she incapable of doing her job, but being forced to stay in her position because that’s convientent for Adam Schiff to stay in power.

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              Moving the goalposts is a lazy form of debate. Thank you for admitting you were wrong about Obama having a supermajority and should have codified abortion rights.

              I will agree with you that they should have forced Ginsburg out and Feinstein should have been voted out a year ago. But that’s not what you initially claimed (multiple times, I might add).

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          Your link literally discredits your own argument. Not enough people to overturn a filibuster…

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      Is the ACA period the only time period y’all know how to cite? If that’s your only example you’ve got, then it’s 100% true that there haven’t been any other opportunities. And getting the ACA through and properly implemented was its own massive battle.