Hes doing more damage to lgbtq and christian relations than helping.

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      Jesus didn’t tolerate sin but he loved the sinner.

      What does that have to do with being trans—a thing which is not a sin?

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              Do you have cite to say otherwise?

              I’m not the one claiming being trans is a sin. I don’t intend to provide “prove a negative” citations that television and tennis shoes aren’t sins either.

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                  It’s a common known fact.

                  Girl hush.

                  Why did “God make wheat” and not bread? Same reason as trans people. So humans could share in the holy act of creation.

                  What’s your actual source for it being a sin, not people saying it’s a sin.

                  Cite Jesus if you please, not a mistranslation of Paul of Tarsus

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                    I cited the pope. The pope has said being trans should be tolerated like all other sinners. All over the news and many bishops have spoke out against it. The pope sets the beliefs on the church. Not you.

                    We know Islam doesn’t tolerate. It’s a capital penalty in many Islamic countries.

                    To be clear I’m not religious but don’t confuse what the religions say.

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      Jesus’ intelorance was always loving

      Tolerance may do well, unless people are in danger. My son might believe it is safe for him to run across the road but I’m intolerant of that belief and behaviour. Instead, because I love him, I shout ‘stop’ and grab him. My friend might believe that alcohol doesn’t affect his driving ability but I’m intolerant of that. Instead, because I love him, I’ll take his car keys and drive him home myself. Jesus knows that people whose views, beliefs, and behaviours differ to his own are in danger. Jesus knows that certain beliefs lead to death, and judgement, and hell. Jesus knows that certain lifestyles are actually harmful to those who practice them. If Jesus had simply tolerated different views and behaviours he’d have smiled, waved, and done nothing. He’d have left people in deadly danger. But instead, Jesus loves people whose beliefs and behaviours differ from his.

      This is why Christians get so much criticism.

      They couch their intolerant behavior in religion and expect us just to accept it as the love of Jesus manifested through them. But that’s not what it is. Sure, Jesus knew certain beliefs lead to death, judgement, and hell but he didn’t bully prostitutes or shun lepers. He also didn’t rape little boys and steal them from their families and claim it was love. And the primary object of his greatest act of intolerance was against the church that claimed to represent him and his father.

      Christianity is under attack. By so-called Christians doing deeply un-Christian things. They play the victim as they victimize others. Their love is narcissistic. And their actions are evil.

      #NotAllChristians or whatever.

      From one of my favorite authors and her blog:

      I don’t think God is calling us to look out for ourselves.

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        And the primary object of his greatest act of intolerance was against the church that claimed to represent him and his father

        I am really confused by this statement. Can you explain ? There were no churches when Jesus was alive.

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                I am just confused. The leaders didn’t claim to represent Jesus.

                I think many people dislike religion but they also don’t understand the first thing about it.

                Jesus was a Jew. After he died, Christian’s were people who tried to live their life on his teachings. Jewish people don’t see Jesus as a messiah. It varies but some see him as a prophet. Islam sees him as a prophet.

                Jesus criticized people for not being truly religious.