County officials alert Montecito homeowners that they face prosecution, including daily fines of $850 if stones are not removed

Montecito, California, is known for being home to Oprah, a former royal family, and a stunning stretch of coastline. It’s also home to miles of trails, some of which are being blocked by residents hoping to stop people from accessing public hot springs.

Santa Barbara county has been watching encroachments on East Mountain Drive and Riven Rock Road in Montecito since at least 2022, when they sent letters to residents warning them to remove large stones.

Last month, county officials sent letters again to at least six homes alerting residents to remove the stones by 28 March or face civil or criminal prosecution, including daily fines of $850. The county insists that these roads are a public right of way.

The issue seems to be with parking at the trailhead, where a tiny lot allows for just eight vehicles. When that fills up, hikers have to park on roadsides. The hot springs contain six bright blue pools that are located 1.3 miles from the trailhead in the San Padres Forest, surrounded by a deep forest and rocky hills. It became popular during the pandemic when hiking surged in the area, and has also taken off on social media as a destination.

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    8 months ago

    It became popular during the pandemic when hiking surged in the area, and has also taken off on social media as a destination.

    On one hand, fuck those rich people who live there. On the other hand, fuck those assholes that ruin places like this because they want to take pictures for social media.

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        Of course, they didn’t have the right to do that, and everyone has the right to visit the place. The problem is that when too many people visit somewhere, then it ruins the experience. It leads the place getting destroyed or permit lotteries.

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          Public places are for everyone… If the rich don’t like it, they shouldn’t have bought a house near a public area. Just like when our neighbors complain about airplane noise, I remind them that they bought the home near the airport.

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            Public places being for everyone ≠ public places are for everyone to destroy.

            That being said, another person commented that there was no push on social media or anything and that these people were locals. If the locals were trashing the place there are any number of ways they could have gone about stopping it besides infringing on others rights. How the rich people went about doing this was absolutely wrong.

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          That sounds like a problem that would solve itself. The local area could invest in amenities and staff to keep it clean if they cared that much, probably be cheaper than the $850 daily fines plus future prosecutions on top of legal fees.

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      8 months ago

      Or … And just hear me out… People actually like walking through scenic nature and visiting hot springs because they simply enjoy it

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        If it were just people naturally finding these places, that’s one thing, but social media seems to fix its gaze like the Eye of Sauron on specific places and suddenly they explode in popularity. The Eye inevitably shifts its gaze elsewhere, and the orcs follow. What’s left behind is usually for the locals to clean up.

        Idk, it seems like every time there’s a patch of flowers near trails I use that eventually some idiot is going to trample all over it looking for a nice photoshoot. If it were simply people visiting these things for enjoyment, there wouldn’t be so much destruction left in their wake.

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          I live here. No one is driving across country to visit our hot springs because they saw it on social media, and even if they did, more power to them. These are locals that want to visit our public spaces. There are supposed to be 20+ parking spots at the trailhead. The people that live in the area eliminated over half of the spots with planters and rocks.

          I sympathize with the notion that human activity can ruin an area, but I will not endorse the idea that public space is only for certain members of the public. We have trails and signage in this area. It is meant for public use. Whether or not it is popular is not the point. The point is that we all decide how to use it through our local government, not through the lawless actions of a few rich people.

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            Oh, I should have clarified my message, I especially dislike the fact that the rich people nearby think it’s ok to close off public places. I just felt the need to point out that, while they chose the wrong way to react to it, the problem they’re reacting to is a legitimate one.

            It’s like the Reddit hug of death. Someone share’s something, it goes viral, suddenly a business used to handling 50 costumers a week is trying to support 10000 and can’t.

            I would never advocate for allowing rich people to do whatever they want because their motivations are undoubtedly “filthy poors”. What you’re saying makes it very clear that they were just being selfish. Especially with the added mention that there was no social media push, and it is effectively just locals being blocked.

            Edit: that being said, human beings are dirty. Take care of the spaces you occupy.

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              It is a difficult issue for sure, but California has a sore history with individuals or small groups cutting off access to public spaces.

              Personally, I think the solution lies in infrastructure and other investments that increase access while protecting the natural wonders around us. This particular location is not exactly pristine wilds; it lies among several sprawling estates in the foothills.

              What I want to resist is the notion that some ‘others’ are the problem when a good location becomes popular. All too often when you ask someone “Who should not be allowed?” the answer is “Someone else, but not me!”

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                I’m right there with you, 100%.

                An area near my home was blocked off by assholes with massive fallen tree trunks. A popular swimming hole was completely blocked off by the rich assholes who live along the river.

                Same thing, it’s not like it was ever pristine, but it just so happens that it’s right next to rich people’s land.

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          but social media seems to fix its gaze like the Eye of Sauron on specific places and suddenly they explode in popularity.

          And here I thought letting people know about neat new places to visit/hike would be a good thing.

          Popularity is not the problem, at least not directly. The problem is the state has to engineer that area to handle the traffic, and seems to not want to, hence the residents trying to take matters into their own hands.

          Reminds me of stories I’ve read in the past of residences in an area with a lot of speeding traffic, and their city doesn’t want to do anything about it, so the residents themselves try to fix the problem by constructing their own speed bumps.