Because who needs to thoughtfully engage with arguments about the utility of electoralism, when you can smugly make a bingo card, and pretend that you won?

      • NewLeaf@hexbear.netEnglish
        20·
        8 months ago

        Funny enough, all the Ukraine/Israel hawks don’t like when you tell them they should sign up to fight

        Too bad they’ll just ban you and send you a reddit cares if you say “I did run, and when I win, I’ll ban all social media so you have to touch grass”

    • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      26·
      8 months ago

      All the “competition” in each party immediately folded after a couple weeks of performative campaigns because there are greater forces at work that’ll never allow it to happen

    • NewLeaf@hexbear.netEnglish
      22·
      8 months ago

      Democrats: cancel primaries in a bunch of states because they have preselected our choice for us

      • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
        19·
        8 months ago

        "Okay, if that’s the case then the most realistic thing I can do is a protest vote against Biden and for the GOP because that way I’m making the effect of my vote on the Democratic party have at least double the impact.

        If the Dems want my vote they have to earn it but until that happens not only are they losing one vote but they’re getting one vote for the opposing party.

        I will encourage other voters to engage in protest voting this way so we can form a bloc to affect change in the most realistic and pragmatic way under this system. We will lobby for change and hold the entire system hostage in the same way that the Dems and their supporters are attempting to hold us hostage. Turnabout play is fair.

        Thank you for helping me to understand that voting is powerful and how it’s crucial to democracy."

          • ReadFanon [any, any]@hexbear.netEnglish
            3·
            8 months ago

            I mean I’m not even an Amerikkkan and I wouldn’t actually advocate for voting for Trump but if someone forced me to go to the polls and they supervised me in the booth so I couldn’t spoil my ballot then I’d probably vote Trump in protest. But that’s really outside of the realms of possibility because we’re talking about a situation where it would be:

            • No option to not vote

            • No option not to cast a blank or spoilt ballot

            • No option to vote for a viable socialist candidate

            So we’re really talking about something that’s the second-last option that I’d take rather than my first one.

            If someone started organising an actual protest vote for the GOP in order to hold the DNC hostage I’d laugh about it because that’s exactly what the Dems deserve and I’d wish them well but ultimately I just don’t see electoralism as a viable strategy, that one included (especially because the DNC knows that a strong Trump means a strong upswing in donations to the Democratic party).

            If it was the time when Bernie was in with a chance or if there were mass strikes or a general strike that was happening and there was a candidate who was significantly more willing to compromise with the strike action then I’d revise my position but under the current circumstances, nah.

  • ThisMachinePostsHog [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    39·
    8 months ago

    Not acknowledging any election other than the presidential general

    I check out every ballot in my local district. But all of the Democratic candidates support Israel, cops, and the military, so I don’t bother voting for them.

    • NewLeaf@hexbear.netEnglish
      11·
      8 months ago

      For real. I don’t know who they think they’re talking about, but every leftist I know still at least looks at all the elections. Probably moreso than any lib. Libs think voting every four years is the pinnacle of political action but I guarantee none of them go to every local election.

      I don’t even believe in electoralism but I usually go if there’s something worth voting on or against.

  • edge [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    35·
    8 months ago

    B

    1. No, your shitty candidate is the reason
    2. Yes
    3. What other actions have you taken? What use were they?
    4. Voters have the memory of a goldfish. The current guy is bad (as always) so they vote for the other guy.
    5. Marx, Lenin, Parenti, probably a bunch of others.

    I

    1. Yes
    2. Yes
    3. Yes
    4. Sacrificing thousands of Palestinian lives for your own benefit is selfish.
    5. Yes

    N

    1. No, but it should at least not actively make things worse.
    2. You’re the one trying to convince people to do something, if you’re an asshole about it they probably won’t want to do it. We don’t care either way.
    3. Yes
    4. Yes
    5. Not necessarily, but it is saying you’re fine with their big policies, like genocide.

    G

    1. It doesn’t matter whether you vote, but I will think less of you for doing so.
    2. It doesn’t, but neither does voting.
    3. “My guy’s genocide isn’t as bad” isn’t the argument you think it is.
    4. Literally every election at all levels is the same: center-right lib vs right wing lib. We’ve tried multiple times to change that by voting for center-left libs in primaries, but you have resisted us every time, and those center-left libs turned out to be pretty shitty too.
    5. Nah, but I’d probably keep replying because I hate seeing stupid shit go unchallenged. I probably shouldn’t though.

    O

    1. Voting for a candidate that supports genocide does indeed mean you support genocide.
    2. What fucking primaries?
    3. Yes
    4. Yes
    5. It gives you the same amount of power as voting.
    • Mindfury [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      23·
      8 months ago

      100% hit rate

      the only one i was possibly considering being a debate pervert about was G4 but your edit cleared that up completely - even the lightest leftward push is frustrated by libs at all and every level.
      (I still might harbour some personal libshit hope that some political apparatus can be captured hyperlocally by electoral means, but a lot of evidence points to me being fucking wrong)

  • EmoThugInMyPhase [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    32·
    8 months ago

    The best part about these kinds of posts is that it’s a 98% chance that a white person made it and they will never dare say it to a POC in person because they won’t be able to justify why we should vote for a cracker who wants to keep throwing us in a meat grinder at home and abroad

  • CloutAtlas [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    30·
    8 months ago

    Writing in Ruth Bader Ginsburg to comply with Tumblr lib.

    mission-accomplished-1 mission-accomplished-2

    Disclaimer: this is a joke, I cannot vote for RBG because I am not American, and if I were, I would focus 100% of my efforts on leaving America for Mongolia/New Zealand/Laos or something then renounce my citizenship permanently.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]@hexbear.netEnglish
    26·
    8 months ago

    ”Voting for a candidate is endorsing everything about them.”

    Isn’t that exactly what they’ve been saying about Trump voters for the last eight years?

  • Moss [they/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
    26·
    8 months ago

    I don’t fucking care if you vote for Biden or not. Whatever. It’s literally not important. Do literally anything else that doesn’t involve bending over for the democrats. Do literally any political action that isn’t voting once every four years and harassing people online. Fucking go join a union or hand out food. Make a community garden. Do literally anything that will actually impact the way people live their lives if you want to be taken seriously.

  • Rojo27 [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
    23·
    8 months ago

    Gonna vote for dragontastical as my write-in candidate because they convinced me to vote with this bingo card. I’m sure they’ll appreciate itthink-about-it