• grue@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    “Urban sprawl” is an oxymoron. Dense urban areas are good, actually; it’s only the suburbs that sprawl.

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        6 months ago

        It should be called the place with trees and loosely densely population that would be okay if cars weren’t so ubiquitous because some people like space but let’s make sure not to exclude minorities so people don’t end up racist.

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      This is not true? Lots of urban areas can sprawl, not least because of car centric planning (big car parks between islands of actual land use; roads built to ease the traffic of roads; urban ‘islands’ of tall and dense occupation connected by road with slivers of green in-between that don’t serve to actually offer a natural environment. Kuala Lumpur features all of these, for example) but also as economic centres decline and become disused and new developments in other areas spread.

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        Especially they sprawl when the developers are allowed to do as they please. They want the most profitable option, which is barren and opposed to what people and local government usually want

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        Tokyo (mostly) isn’t sprawl; that’s just how much space 40 million people take up.

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        That is still better than the alternative of suburbs. Could it be better designed or something. Idk, maybe.

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            6 months ago

            Where do you suggest all the people go?

            Are you really anti urban or are you anti people?

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              I’m anti so many people that you need a dense urban area 80 miles across to fit them all *edit on looking it up it’s not all that dense, it’s just a big sprawling city

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                  Implement proper demography and population growth schemes so that you don’t end up with so many people in the first place, manage your population distribution on a national level so as not to overwhelm the natural resources of any one area, build walkable communities with a variety of density to suit peoples differing needs

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    6 months ago

    Where I live, rich urban areas have plenty of trees and frequently get more planted around. Meanwhile, poorer areas receive zero trees because “they don’t have trees to receive maintenance”.

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    Despite what you might think of Skynyrd, they cover this topic in a relatable way. Arcade Fire also covers it kind of. Sorry for the links but I’m a huge music nerd.

    Around here, sprawl is a major issue. We have some of the most fertile soils in the world, and we pave over them without regard. It’s abhorrent. I don’t make the ‘most fertile soils’ comment lightly - this is my area of expertise, professionally. The only other places I can think of that have better soil quality than where I live are Russia and the Ukraine.

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    Also describes the orcs’ drink they gave to the hobbits very much like you would describe coffee

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      6 months ago

      To places where trees grow.

      And build with them, and make yet another Mordor.