I just wonder if it actually did get worse or it just seems like that because as an adult you have a lot more on your plate than you did when you were a kid/teen

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    ADHD is commonly referred to as an executive dysfunction - it also effects non-executive tasks and time management in general but, coming into adulthood, you’ll truly understand why it’s a recognized disability and stare in shocked horror at ADHD havers of prior generations.

    It was really unfortunate in school if you failed to complete an assignment and had to repeat a course or a grade but if you can’t manage to pay rent or utility bills (even when you have the money to) you’re fucked. It can also be difficult to keep jobs if you struggle to produce consistent output potentially depriving you of the money to pay those bills.

    When you were a kid you (hopefully) would always have a roof over your head and food to eat - being an adult means losing that guaranteed safety net. Even if we’ve had years to practice coping methods the price of failure is extremely steep.

    It’s also for this reason that I’ve encouraged everyone I know in the states with ADHD to emigrate - the social safety nets in America effectively don’t exist for us as they have qualifications and constant high amounts of effort to maintain enrollment. If you get fucked once in America you’re going to be in a bad place.

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      Adderall isn’t an approved medication outside of the United States though, and it’s the only drug that works for me. Plus… I’m already having a hard enough time. You need tens of thousands saved up to even afford a move, and then go through the immigration process? All that paperwork? Obviously there are better safety nets outside of the United States but most people privileged enough to afford to leave would also be in less need of a safety net.

      Basically, this is terrible advice lmao

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        My understanding is Adderall isn’t that much different to dexamphetamine?

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            I’m not sure about other EU countries, but Vyvanse (lisdexamphetamine, a prodrug form of dexamphetamine) is legal in Germany under the name Elvanse

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            In Sweden we have a choice of Dexamfetamine, Lisdexamfetamine, Methylphenidate and Atomoxetine. Diagnosis is $30 and medication cost is capped at $200/yr. American refugees welcome.

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              You made the best cars too. Shame it’s so damn cold there much of the year. I have chosen to live in Imperial Beach, because I can’t afford Hawaii, and IB has my definition of perfect weather. Never gets above 85°F/30°C never drops below 40°F/5°C. There’s also frequently a steady breeze coming off the ocean. I don’t need an air conditioner, an only use my space heater for a couple months overnight each year.

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                Saab 9-3 Aero was peak car. I get 25-30C summers and -5-+5C winters. Not too different from you, but I usually get snow a couple of random days each winter. Days are short in winter though.

                Oh and my very average 1500 sqft house is 10 minutes from a major city center and cost me $300k. How does that compare?

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                  IB is a 4sq mile town that’s next to San Diego, and Tijuana. Admittedly my house is almost twice your size, and cost $800,000. I’m also less than a mile from the ocean, so I can bike there with my surfboard, and less than a six hour train and taxi ride from several different climate types.

                  I loved my 1986 SAAb 900 SPG. I refuse to buy a SAAb that was made after GM bought them.

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            I’m prescribed it in the UK. Adderall is just a 3:1 mix of dexamphetamine and levoamphetamine.

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        I moved out of country for about three thousand dollars in total and most of that was moving fees for shipping my possessions across the country. Canadian immigration costs are actually extremely reasonable and your out of pocket fees to the governor for applications will usually be under a thousand dollars (mine was especially affordable since I immigrated on a fiance visa).

        Everyone’s situation is different, so don’t feel pressured to leave - especially if you have a strong social safety net in the form of family and friends… I unfortunately didn’t really have that.

        My main point though is that even people of privilege with high paying jobs (I’m a software developer myself) can suddenly get hit with a series of tragedies or other events that unbalance us and put us, in particular, in a place that we’ll struggle to dig ourselves out of. There was a time in university when I ran out of meds and got hit by a bout of depression and escaped it purely by the intervention of a friend getting me to call the pharmacy and authorize a third party medication pickup and then going to grab the meds. That experience terrified me because of how helpless I felt trying to organize my life while experiencing a lack of meds and withdrawal.

        Shit can be hard - and yea, we’re not all the same… so my advice might not work for you.

        Edit: I checked - and the visa I got my PR card on is now 1,205 $CAD potentially with additional fees for things like photos and background checks. The business PR path is 2385 $CAD - full information available here: https://ircc.canada.ca/english/information/fees/fees.asp

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          Sounds like you have to be sponsored by a company to make the move though via a business visa? That still basically only happens to people in high paying jobs.

          You’re in a high paying career and knew someone in the country, that made things way easier for you, and indiscriminately giving the advice that people should emigrate makes you sound like a privileged tool.

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            You’re in a high paying career and knew someone in the country, that made things way easier for you, and indiscriminately giving the advice that people should emigrate makes you sound like a privileged tool.

            The negativity is immense - why are you seeking such an adversarial interaction?

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              The way they went about getting their point across isn’t great but that said, there are legitimate reasons why you don’t see everyone leave for another country even if that is exactly what they want to do. Especially if you are someone that struggles to survive here let alone put away a few grand to cover the expenses of moving to another country, do the planning and research needed, tie up loose ends etc. Living abroad may be good for neurodiverse people but the actual process of leaving the US and settling elsewhere as a permanent resident is not.

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              What am I supposed to suck your dick for giving out terrible advice that only a small proportion of the population can follow through on? I’m literally just telling you how you actually come across. Hear it or don’t.