• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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        I know that if I was a Palestine protestor, and President Biden was going to speak, and the college said that they would immediately just end the ceremony if things got too out of hand, I would immediately think “Well that definitely wouldn’t be a good outcome. I better quiet down; I was going to have this big protest, but if it’ll end the commencement ceremony entirely, then I won’t, because that would attract some attention to the cause I’m trying to promote. It might make the news or something. I’m scared of that outcome and wouldn’t want it to happen; that threat is effective.”

        Your conclusion makes perfect sense that the crowd was mostly filled with people who were seething with contempt for Joe Biden, but cowed into obedient sitting-facing-towards-him by the threat that if they made too much ruckus, it would successfully disrupt the event.

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          How many Palestinian graduates were there at the HBCU today, genius?

          Also, half the staff didn’t want Biden there…

          In a split vote, Morehouse faculty votes to award Biden an honorary doctorate.

          A procedural oversight turned the faculty vote into a way for staff members to voice their opposition to Biden’s visit. The vote was 50-38, with roughly a dozen people abstaining.

          https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/joe-biden/morehouse-college-vote-award-biden-honorary-doctorate-degree-rcna151990

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            I notice that this conversation has a very particular type of flow – Innuendo Studios talked about this in Never Play Defense.

            Actually, I went back and looked at it’s significantly worse than the example the video constructs. The video’s example was dishonest, but the exchange was actually pretty coherent. I think this message is a particularly strong example of the flow you’ve been doing – where I say the protestors are right and I’m glad that Biden is letting them speak and hope he will take their message on board because what he’s doing right now is wrong, and then you get all hostile while lecturing me that not everyone who disagrees with Biden is a Republican. The Republicans in the video are never bad-faith to that comical a level, although the overall flow of “wild new assertion / coherent response / repeat” is pretty similar.

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              What’s your point? You’re not going to change my mind and I’m not going to change your mind. That was never the goal. There’s a reason I don’t type out a novel for every response like you do. Because I don’t really care. We’re getting Trump again and it’s all Biden’s fault.

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                Chin up boyo! You said you were gonna keep doing this all the way until the election. That’s like 6 more months, you can’t get all downhearted about it already just about some messages explaining why this one was bullshit too.

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                  Oh don’t worry, I’ll continue posting the rage inducing political news throughout the election. I’ve been doing it since 2015.

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        This doesn’t at all say they had to do this “or else,” it only talks about disruptions, not protests, and no one was compelled to be there. You literally started this thread with an article about some students who protested without causing a disruption, dufus

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          If you’re expecting coherence (or truth) out of ozma’s unhinged complaints, you’re expecting waaaaay too much.