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  • Platomus@lemm.ee
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    Can you honestly not tell which is more natural between an AC UNIT and a TUNNEL WITH WATER? You really can’t tell?

    P.S. You 100% said I was arguing that electricity was bad.

    You: “So, electricity is unnatural and hence bad? Is that the point being made here?”

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      Again, in that instance I wasn’t talking about what you are arguing. The only thing I’ve wanted to find out since the beginning of this discussion is what the original comment meant. This isn’t about you.

      And no, to me “natural” means created by nature and “artificial” means created by humans. So neither is natural. But that’s not relevant because we’re not talking about my definition of natural. We’re talking about what they meant.

      Do you not see that my whole point of asking is to understand the other person’s view instead of adding my own assumptions? That words do not mean exactly the same thing for everyone? I don’t know why this makes you so upset. Is it bad to try to understand the other person’s ideas before arguing about them?

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        I’ve never seen someone other than my middle school students resist critical thinking this hard.

        My first comment was asking you what you THOUGHT THEY meant. And you said I don’t know. You couldn’t even try to work it out? When it’s blatantly obvious. When they even explained it in their comment? They literally outlined what they wanted in their comment. Why did you ignore that part of it to focus on natural vs unnatural?

        You’re also already arguing about them - even after you said you don’t know. Its getting real fucking obvious you’re just looking for a fight. That’s why you had to push an argument onto me - that you then pretended you didn’t do.

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          Yikes. Putting someone this rigid and unempathetic in a teaching position makes me worried for society. These kind of values are what makes people polarized and unable to understand one another. It’s the opposite of what we need right now.

          You’ve gone to doing exactly what I was trying not to do with OP, i.e. to put words in my mouth. Somehow you now think your assumptions about what I meant are more valid than what I say I meant. I don’t see a point in continuing this conversation since I’d just be a hostage to your interpretations. Bye.

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            Get called out for being disingenuous and then run away. Nice.

            When did I put any words in your mouth? What did I say you said? What did I imply you said?

            Edit: lololol at not even taking accountant. Just going to downvote and run away. Can’t say what words I put in your mouth can you? Because I didn’t. I asked you question for clarification and you took it as an attack.