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    5 months ago

    Source for the razor wire claim? Seems like obvious war time propaganda to me and I can’t find anything online.

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        5 months ago

        Over the top descriptions of torture between an alleged soldier and his mother that seem almost scripted, published by the Ukraine military. I’m going to call this a maybe at best.

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          So when accounts of torture fit with the narrative you like, they are credible, but when they don’t fit with the narrative you like, they are not?

          Was the video of castration by Russian military of a detainee also just faked propaganda?

          Was the UN report that Russian forces tortured prisoners to death also fake?

          It’s not exactly like this phone call goes against a pattern of behavior for Russian forces.

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            In time of war you’d do best to question news when it’s reported only by one of the sides and not by an independent source. Maybe it’s true, but militaries don’t value truth during war.

            I wouldn’t trust the Russian military either

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              “Almost every single one of the Ukrainian POWs we interviewed described how Russian servicepersons or officials tortured them during their captivity, using repeated beatings, electric shocks, threats of execution, prolonged stress positions and mock execution. Over half of them were subjected to sexual violence,” said Danielle Bell, the head of HRMMU.

              And these are the accounts from the prisoners that were released.

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                I’m not denying Russian atrocities full stop I’m just wary of these kinds of very specific and evocative claims. It’s “beheaded babies” level for me.

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                using repeated beatings, electric shocks, threats of execution, prolonged stress positions and mock execution. Over half of them were subjected to sexual violence,”

                Sooo… basically just how the Russian military treats it’s conscripts in general.