True, but if only there was some way for her to realise that the Hollywood machinery of the Democratic party might use her… If only her naivety didn’t force her to embrace that oppurtunity to be an apologist for the worst of the status quo and box her into being a post-left grifter. If only…
I wouldn’t call her post left, she is still miles better than Red Scare or Amy Terese and still making content that gets libs to think a little more leftward
Perhaps it’s sematics, but I don’t think she was ever really on the left (even in the US-centric online space) and she’s spent the last couple of years entwined with the Democrats and punching left agains even mild US-soc dems. Even within an American politics online person capacity I’d argue she’s already in her post-left pivot and will only go further.
“Red Scare or Amy Terese” should not be the benchmark.
I think she’ll probably become a standard bearer out of touch Dem as she gets richer (a la Patton Oswalt), but will never end up like Brianna Wu trying to do anti-woke stuff for attention because she already has a huge following.
and still making content that gets libs to think a little more leftward
Did you not see her Vote Blue video? She spits on the left and advocating for liberal cognitive dissonance does not actually help people become communists. That’s just some combination of tailism and cope.
I have not seen that but I will forever be glad she was steering some people away from stuff like Jordan Peterson at the height of “attack helicopter” transphobia and “Intellectual Dark Web” nonsense. I am sure she makes no effort to turn anyone communist, but plenty of liberals, especially in red states, who already regard Elizabeth Warren as far left, are better for having watched her.
She’s a centrist encouraging people to be centrist, that doesn’t seem like “getting libs to think a little more leftward” by any reasonable metric. I don’t seek to contest nor do I really care about your sentimental/parasocial affection for her, but the facts are the facts.
Here’s the video, by the way. The first thing I always remember about it, though it’s in a tangent, is that she calls Mao a “strongman,” which aside from being wrong and reeking of chauvinism, is just so fucking stupid that it’s beneath even a College Republican.
As someone whose grandfather and great aunt were both professors sent to a labor camp by Mao, and whose mother grew up having to thank a portrait of Mao before dinner every evening, but still believes he did a lot of good for China, I forgive her.
Give me a break, I know a professor who was caught in the whole “reform by labor” business and they would side with me that “strongman” is a completely ridiculous thing to call Mao, even if you wrongly think that he didn’t do a lot of good for China. “Strongman” doesn’t mean “leader whose policies I dislike,” though I’d argue Brandon does some strongman politics with his bullshit about pushups and challenging random civilians to fights when they disagree with him.
You aren’t even reading my comments in their entirety before flying off (I actually said he did do a lot of good for China), and your relationship to Mao is like that of a Swiftie to Taylor Swift.
I have extended family who are officials in the CCP, who would never give a shit about Mao being called a strongman, and would not consider some US lib YouTuber a centrist for thinking that. But your criteria for “strongman” appears entirely based on the politician’s personal affects rather than their actual policy, which for Mao was literally asking every household have a picture of him in it to thank, and rooting out and jailing dissidents.
Now, a lot of Mao’s initiatives were a necessary course of action to end things in China like the monopolies and polygamy and foot binding, but getting mad at Contrapoints lumping Mao with other “strongmen” in some 2020 video, and equivocating her views with Biden’s for it is extremely online shit, the very parasocial behavior you accuse me of, the mirror opposite of the AnCap who gets mad when someone online calls Milei a fascist because on paper he’s a libertarian.
Contrapoints is basically YouTube John Oliver, I am glad if moderate libs watch her crap instead of MSNBC or Bill Maher or Sam Harris.
It was always going to be like that, maybe she had some Westwing style dream where if she was just able to convince Hillary she would change who she’s been her entire life - or maybe contra was just excited that that meant she made it. Neither were true.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but who could have possibly predicted that?
And then naturally the move is to double down on a load of scratched lib shit and democrat punching left.
Personally, if I was fucked over by the machinery of a political party that I (somehow as a supposed leftist) didn’t see coming, that might inspire oppositon in me rather than establishment media oppurtunity.
I fully accept being seen as a dick: This was obvious and imagining she was being bamboozled is childish. Cutting together videos is her fucking career and we’re supposed to pretend that she’s so braindead that she thinks Hillary would give her a platform to say anything other than what Hillary finds acceptable? No, she wants the fucking clout and the money by being appealing to VoteBlues
They cut a bunch of her stuff out of the doc, they just wanted to use her as a trans millennial face
True, but if only there was some way for her to realise that the Hollywood machinery of the Democratic party might use her… If only her naivety didn’t force her to embrace that oppurtunity to be an apologist for the worst of the status quo and box her into being a post-left grifter. If only…
I wouldn’t call her post left, she is still miles better than Red Scare or Amy Terese and still making content that gets libs to think a little more leftward
Perhaps it’s sematics, but I don’t think she was ever really on the left (even in the US-centric online space) and she’s spent the last couple of years entwined with the Democrats and punching left agains even mild US-soc dems. Even within an American politics online person capacity I’d argue she’s already in her post-left pivot and will only go further.
“Red Scare or Amy Terese” should not be the benchmark.
I think she’ll probably become a standard bearer out of touch Dem as she gets richer (a la Patton Oswalt), but will never end up like Brianna Wu trying to do anti-woke stuff for attention because she already has a huge following.
Did you not see her Vote Blue video? She spits on the left and advocating for liberal cognitive dissonance does not actually help people become communists. That’s just some combination of tailism and cope.
I have not seen that but I will forever be glad she was steering some people away from stuff like Jordan Peterson at the height of “attack helicopter” transphobia and “Intellectual Dark Web” nonsense. I am sure she makes no effort to turn anyone communist, but plenty of liberals, especially in red states, who already regard Elizabeth Warren as far left, are better for having watched her.
She’s a centrist encouraging people to be centrist, that doesn’t seem like “getting libs to think a little more leftward” by any reasonable metric. I don’t seek to contest nor do I really care about your sentimental/parasocial affection for her, but the facts are the facts.
Here’s the video, by the way. The first thing I always remember about it, though it’s in a tangent, is that she calls Mao a “strongman,” which aside from being wrong and reeking of chauvinism, is just so fucking stupid that it’s beneath even a College Republican.
As someone whose grandfather and great aunt were both professors sent to a labor camp by Mao, and whose mother grew up having to thank a portrait of Mao before dinner every evening, but still believes he did a lot of good for China, I forgive her.
Give me a break, I know a professor who was caught in the whole “reform by labor” business and they would side with me that “strongman” is a completely ridiculous thing to call Mao, even if you wrongly think that he didn’t do a lot of good for China. “Strongman” doesn’t mean “leader whose policies I dislike,” though I’d argue Brandon does some strongman politics with his bullshit about pushups and challenging random civilians to fights when they disagree with him.
You aren’t even reading my comments in their entirety before flying off (I actually said he did do a lot of good for China), and your relationship to Mao is like that of a Swiftie to Taylor Swift.
I have extended family who are officials in the CCP, who would never give a shit about Mao being called a strongman, and would not consider some US lib YouTuber a centrist for thinking that. But your criteria for “strongman” appears entirely based on the politician’s personal affects rather than their actual policy, which for Mao was literally asking every household have a picture of him in it to thank, and rooting out and jailing dissidents.
Now, a lot of Mao’s initiatives were a necessary course of action to end things in China like the monopolies and polygamy and foot binding, but getting mad at Contrapoints lumping Mao with other “strongmen” in some 2020 video, and equivocating her views with Biden’s for it is extremely online shit, the very parasocial behavior you accuse me of, the mirror opposite of the AnCap who gets mad when someone online calls Milei a fascist because on paper he’s a libertarian.
Contrapoints is basically YouTube John Oliver, I am glad if moderate libs watch her crap instead of MSNBC or Bill Maher or Sam Harris.
It was always going to be like that, maybe she had some Westwing style dream where if she was just able to convince Hillary she would change who she’s been her entire life - or maybe contra was just excited that that meant she made it. Neither were true.
I am sure she said a lot of thoughtful stuff to Hillary that got cut out of the released version like Homer’s Poochie speech.
I’m not trying to be a dick, but who could have possibly predicted that?
And then naturally the move is to double down on a load of scratched lib shit and democrat punching left.
Personally, if I was fucked over by the machinery of a political party that I (somehow as a supposed leftist) didn’t see coming, that might inspire oppositon in me rather than establishment media oppurtunity.
I fully accept being seen as a dick: This was obvious and imagining she was being bamboozled is childish. Cutting together videos is her fucking career and we’re supposed to pretend that she’s so braindead that she thinks Hillary would give her a platform to say anything other than what Hillary finds acceptable? No, she wants the fucking clout and the money by being appealing to VoteBlues
Person licking the boot is shocked the boot is still used to kick their teeth in.