• mozz@mbin.grits.dev
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    19 days ago

    Holy shit; I thought at first that this was about the US state

    And nothing about that seemed all that out of place 😕

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        19 days ago

        China will never rule Taiwan, they’re not gonna start a war with all their trading partners over an island. It’s a nationalist rallying cry, nothing more.

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          China plans to conquer Taiwan from the inside via clandestine elected officials who will pass laws to lower the walls for China to politically “invade”

          Unfortunately from the last elections (the pro Beijing KMT party sneakily taking majority), it’s already working…before the citizens realize it, Taiwan will share the some authoritarian shithole regime appointed by the CCP and any talk that is not about the glory of China or unification will be a “separatist” 'national security threat"

          Remember Hong Kong

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            Exactly. China doesn’t need to start a war to take Taiwan. Win an election one time, then aggressively change the rules to keep your party in power permanently.

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              They already have parliament majority. Now they just need to unseat Lai with their own zealot as president and Taiwan is fucked. Not a single army boot will step foot in either (not until they have control anyway)

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            19 days ago

            What does this influence look like? Is it like the interference in elections elsewhere? Do they fund politicians like in the Philippines or Hungary or is it more like social media campaigns? What else should we be aware of?

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          You’ve got it reversed, the u.s. isn’t going to war with a super power over a country most people can’t point to on a map. It’s even a question how far sanctions would go if they invaded, if you look at the Russian example the sanctions are pretty half ass and Russian petroleum is still flowing to the west, maybe less but they’re still taking in money and there economy is doing way better then before the invasion. For all the talk westerners aren’t willing to go cold in the winter or pay more at the pump for Ukraine.

          That’s for a country with a way smaller role in the global supply chain, fuck dying for Taiwan the real question is whether Americans could give up their cheap consumerist bullshit for Taiwan. China knows this too, it’s just whether they want to act on it and make themselves a pariah state.

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            It’s doubtful that their economy is doing better. GDP, in the middle of a failing (or costly) war, is a pretty bad metric. It doesn’t matter if you produce more value inside the country if all of it (and more) is destroyed at the front.

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    I honestly couldn’t tell at first if this was about the country called Georgia or the American state called Georgia. It could honestly apply to both.

    I hope the people of the nation of Georgia are able to overcome Putlers influence.

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      I don’t think that I’d call this “North Korea”. China isn’t even North Korea, and China’s a one party state that outright prohibits parties from existing that oppose the ruling party.

      There’s a spectrum of political repression, and North Korea is pretty far down it.

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        I take your point, but I wouldn’t categorise NK as being pretty far down the road in terms of political repression.

        Try and oppose the Kim’s and see how long you continue breathing.

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          Don’t they also arrest your close circle and put them in an internment camp? You know to make sure your ideas did not leak out.

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          19 days ago

          looks confused

          I wasn’t saying that North Korea is less politically-repressive than China.

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            19 days ago

            To be fair, you introduced China into the subject, not us.

            I agree, tho. Both are repressive, so is Saudi Arabia, Myanmar and a whole bunch of others.

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      19 days ago

      And their people seem super friendly. Every Georgian I’ve came across online have been extremely nice.

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    19 days ago

    Hey, the best way to win is to ban the competition… says Russia, China, North Korea, heck even Cuba.