“He’s doing a good job,” Trump saidabout the Israeli leader. “Biden is trying to hold him back, just so you understand, Biden is more superior to the VP. He’s trying to hold him back, and he probably should be doing the opposite, actually. I’m glad that Netanyahu decided to do what he had to do, but it’s moving along pretty good.”

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    When the election is over, what will you call people who don’t want the US to support genocide when you can’t call them all trumpers?

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      The logical error implicit in your question is that allowing Donald “finish them” Trump to win is obviously worse for Gaza, so I don’t believe for a minute that anyone calling for folks to exclude themselves from affecting whether the country gets Trump or Harris in the White House actually cares about Gaza at all, even a little bit.

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        The logical error implicit in your question is that allowing Donald “finish them” Trump to win is obviously worse for Gaza

        I’m still voting for Harris, and have never advocated for not voting, voting third party, or voting for trump. You’ve ignored this multiple times because it’s contrary to your “anti-genocide = pro-trump” narrative.

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              I genuinely think I didn’t say anything about you, except when I mistakenly thought you claimed you pretended to advocate for third parties. It’s the advocating for throwing away your vote that I always object to.

              So I’m asking where I said something where you felt criticised as secretly pro trump, because unless you advocated that principled folk throw away their vote, I don’t think I did.

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          That’s not my narrative AT ALL. My narrative is that the people who argue that caring about Gaza or caring about left wing issues means you should exclude yourself from deciding between Kamala Harris and Donald “best King of Israel” Trump aren’t really left wing or pro Gaza people at all, they’re trumpers trying to suppress left wing votes. Tindiril seemed not to realise they exist, but the rest of the thread has them out in spades. I’ve never taken issue with people hating what’s going on in Gaza and spreading to Lebanon, I just keep pointing out that allowing Trump back in the White House will be worse for Gaza and worse for anything left wing.

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            My narrative is that people who argue that caring about Gaza of caring about left wing issues means you should exclude yourself from deciding between Kamala Harris and Donald “best King of Israel” Trump are trumpers.

            You know I’m not one of those people. And yet, since you can’t abide anyone being unhappy about genocide, you keep pretending I am.

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              Well, if you pretend to support Trump winning, maybe don’t take offence when people criticise you for advocating for Trump.

              Edit: I misread “you keep pretending” as “I keep pretending”, which completely changed the meaning!

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                Well, if you pretend to support Trump winning

                I never did that. Not once. Why do you keep lying about anyone who doesn’t support genocide?

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                  I’m so sorry, I misread your comment:

                  You know I’m not one of those people. And yet, since you can’t abide anyone being unhappy about genocide, you keep pretending I am.

                  I thought you said “I keep pretending I am”.

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                    You have spent the past few hours telling vicious lies about me. You have consistently ignored my positions and kept calling me a trumpist even though you know better. You have been the absolute epitome of bad faith.

                    I’m glad that you can finally admit a mistake. But no. Apology not accepted.

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        Get over yourself, find a good-fairh argument to have for once.

        The only thing you consider good faith is support for the wholesale murder of every last Palestinian.