cross-posted from: https://lemm.ee/post/45204357

Yesterday, I created my account on Lemmy.ml because I want to become mod on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml. And I posted this comic on !stardewvalley@lemmy.ml It’s SDV game cutscene where Shane a NPC go watch Sports game with you kiss you accidentily but It was part of that event also player kiss Shane(NPC) back. Here’s video for more context. And someone claimed it have SA(Sexual Assualt) From Hexbear Ofcourse. So, I should delete it. I said it was a part of game cutscene. And If main player doesn’t love the Shane(NPC) then they don’t need to complete this event. And Just as a sarcasm I added Yeah we shoule delete this entire community because this game is Woke like Woke Detector Steam Group said. That user think I am some anti-woke dickhead something like that IDK. And tell me to Kill My Self. What I do now? I wanted on become mod on .ml because community was already well established. I message dessaline but I am sure he will not unbanned me. :(

Did I really did something wrong? I don’t know If I really did something wrong.

Link for that comic if embed doesn’t work.

Comic

Create one lemm.ee !stardewvalley@lemm.ee

    • sag@lemm.eeOP
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      Bigotry? When? I didn’t say anything bad

      • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]@hexbear.net
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        Your comments were all deleted and I trust the admins of .ml more than a day old account that was banned instantly for Rule 1 violations after trying to take over a comm.

        Did you take screenshots?

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          I trust the admins of .ml more than a day old account that was banned instantly for Rule 1 violations after trying to take over a comm.

          “I’m gullible towards people in a position of power, once they say that they’re communists.”

          I’m a communist too. (Seriously) Trust me, you should go lick a cactus.

          Serious now. You don’t even need to trust me, or anyone here. Just pay attention to .ml modlogs and take your own conclusions.

          Also, when sharing shit in the dunk tank, remember rule #1.

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              You’re now inventing a position the other hasn’t even claimed to approachh.

              Not really. I’m framing what he said in a different way, to highlight how stupid it is to trust = be gullible towards the .ml admins more than someone random banned by them.

              The reason for trusting moderators of .ml has jack shit to do with the ideology of the instance

              I think that both of us know that you’re lying.

              I’m not blind to the red scare going on. But I’m not blind to you all using it as an excuse for every single thing.

              And it is clear why they’re doing it. Since there’s some red scare going on, you kids are using it as an excuse for everything and a bit more. Specially because it’s a give-and-take here.

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          Also, I am a year old lemm.ee user. You can check my account too. You can check modlog of my account too. Most of the time my post get removed by me or some other mod because I accidentally post them twice(It was jerboa error or sometime I post to different community). Even, I have some conversation over !badposting@hexbear.net, !technology@hexbear.net and !arestraightsok on hexbear.

        • sag@lemm.eeOP
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          I don’t have screenshots. Sadly :( but you can see them on Modlog I guess.

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      They posted a crosspost link on .ml to the stardew valley comm they created, contradicting their complaint about getting banned

      There’s no contradiction between complaining about having one account banned and cross-posting with another.

      So cut off the crap. You aren’t fooling anyone here.

      The mod log says they were banned for breaking the rule against bigotry [rule 1]

      And I’m calling bullshit on the stated reason why .ml banned OP. More on that later.

      The burden of proof is on the person making the claim, you fucking moron, not the person casting doubt on it

      Epistemically speaking the burden of the proof falls on both, since you’re “conveniently” omitting that you didn’t just “cast doubt” towards OP’s claims - you also did your own claims there, by implying that the ban was to exclude [ipsis ungulis] “their toxic asses” from the community. (Whatever “toxic” means.)

      On a moral level though? OP is defending themself. Have you ever heard about presumption of innocence?

      In both cases, you still need to back up your claim. Now at least try to pretend to be a decent person, and do it, instead of running again with tail between legs.

      Just on a personal note, you’re a fucking idiot for taking a story like this on face value when even in the OP’s text the actual reason for the ban isn’t touched on. It’s amazing how poor your critical thinking skills are.

      My sides went into orbit. That’s specially hilarious coming from someone who shows blatant gullibleness towards the reasons stated in the .ml modlog.

      But let’s roll with it. Contrariwise to your assumption = bullshit, I don’t trust OP’s narrative due to lack of critical thinking skills. I trust what OP is saying here because it’s extremely consistent with what I’ve personally observed as a former .ml user who used to mod two comms there:

      The .ml admin team, as a team*, has the same reading skills of a potato, is often prone to witch hunting and assumptive behaviour (consistent with this case), and uses “rule 1” (bigotry) and “rule 2” (unwelcoming behaviour) as catch-all for “we want a bullshit reason to get rid of this poster”. And it never admits when it fucked up.

      If you want evidences of that, just go dig on the defederation of ani.social, where the admin team distorted the concept of child sexual abuse material to [unnecessarily] justify it. Or I can come up with the modlog of one of the comms I used to moderate there. Your choice.

      *I’d gladly give you names. But I don’t know if it’s allowed here.

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          [Note for other users: since the other user is simply grasping at straws with argumenta ad hominem, and there’s zero valid argumentation, I’ll have my fun at his expense.]

          While I can appreciate how much effort you put into the affectation of the appearance of intelligence [implied: “lvxferre is pretending to be intelligent”]

          “Oh noes! How does someone DARE to disagree with Our Holy King AntiOutsideAktion? They must be stupid!”

          …or perhaps I’m intelligent enough to not fall for your obvious bullshit. Not that this is some achievement, because I bet that even a dog could do it.

          and how well you’ve internalized “more words = more good” as a writing style

          If my verbosity deeply offends your precious, oh-so-precious sensibilities and your entitlement to abridged content, well… I don’t care.

          Now let’s see if you have some actual argumentation or if you’ll keep whining [yes] this shitty ad hominem. (Onwards “AAH”)

          I observe that you are still a dumb motherfucker who should just keep their idiot mouth shut.

          Nope, it’s still AAH.

          And bossing me around to “waaah! shut up! shut up!!! I’m going to cry if you don’t shut up!” is ineffective, by the way.

          Basic reading comprehension: I was calling you and the rabble of .world accounts toxic.

          I.e. you were using a non-descriptive weasel label that can be used to justify everything and nothing at the same time, to whine at LW users and me, because you have the same intellectual honesty of a hypothetical child of Elon Musk and a genderbent Spez, and can’t back up your claim.

          But no, something must be wrong. People aren’t laughing at your shitty arguments because they’re bloody stupid. No - it must be because they’re stupid!

          Yeah, I’ve heard of it. Where did you hear of it? In a court system? Not on a private forum the owners of which can decide who they want to join or not?

          Oh look, the Musk x Spez child never heard about moral values. …and suddenly your babble makes a lot of sense.

          Again, I’m not calling you a fucking moron frivolously. You’re a fucking moron.

          “Again, I’m not calling you a fucking moron frivolously. You dare to disagree with me, even if reality magically bends around my belly button and makes even my inane and immoral shit become true, As if By Magic®”

          AAH still ongoing… *yawns*

          The word is “gullibility”

          Yeah, nah. The word “gullibleness” is registered at least in Wiktionary, WordHippo, bab.la, and the spelling corrector that I’m using.

          Next time that you want to prescribe against the usage of some specific word, at least make sure that the word isn’t actually valid. Otherwise you’ll keep making a fool of yourself. Although… by this comment, it’s clear that you’re willing to be the laughing stock of everyone here, right?

          But hey. Let’s pretend, for a tiny moment, that your prescription held some merit here. Ah, my bad if my L3 English offends your sensibilities! I forgot that Lemmy is supposed to be the WASP e-Lebensraum, and that you’re expected to have native tier proficiency! Mayocide is threatening me and I must fight against it!

          lol

          Yeah, I’ve already noticed that you’re braindead. You don’t need to reinforce it.

          Ordinarily I wouldn’t expect someone to brag about moderating a pedophile instance.

          Finally, you found something else than argumenta ad hominem! I’m so proud of you!

          And it’s still a fallacy. Changing goalposts - since the bullshit claim that ani.social contains CSAM is too stupid even for you, you’re now claiming that it’s a “paedophile instance”.

          Stop making shit up. Not even the individual .ml admins agree with each other about it. It’s just that one is too stubborn to admit that he was wrong (he does the same all the time in LG), and there’s another [not in the linked conversation] clapping to what the stubborn one does.

          (Blame still goes to the admin team as an entity.)

          This concludes my response titled “Why you’re too much of a stupid piece of shit to engage with seriously”

          You do realise that, if you did this in your own home instance, you’d be correctly banned, right? You’re supposed to disengage without arguing. (Or trying to, in your case.)

          That without even considering the blatant linguistic prejudice that you showed in this comment.


          “You could’ve gone to sleep without that.” - local saying.

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              WHEN WILL YOU DENSE MOTHERFUCKERS UNDERSTAND AN AD HOMINEM ISNT “WHEN YOU GET INSULTED”?

              No, I’m not conflating both things.

              Depending on the way that the insults are being used, they do count as argumentum ad hominem. Basically when you dress them as counter-argumentation, in order to defend a point - like that user is doing, there’s exactly fuck zero argumentation, the whole thing boils down to “u’re coment is wrong because ur a ass hat lol lmao”, to the point that my answer is… well, simply shitposting in return.

              What doesn’t classify as ad hominem is shit, for example, like you’re doing now. You’re being like a 12yo who discovered their ability to call others “u poopy head lol lmao”, but not really using ad hominem since you aren’t trying to dress it as the argument.

              In other words: contrariwise to your assumption, yes, I understand the difference. And it is still argumentum ad hominem.

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            Hey, It’s not worth it in the end. We don’t need to defend anymore. But Thanks for your support.

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              It’s not too late to delete this king

              “Please don’t speak up, let us dogpile you.”

              The only king here is you. And I happen to have fresh entrails from a priest.

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                  If you struggle to understand what I’m saying, to the point that you confuse it with public masturbation, then by all means, quote the relevant excerpts and I’ll genuinely do my best to clarify it. (Translation: “if you’re a dumb fuck and words are too hard for you, ask and I’ll spoonfeed you.”)

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        Or I can come up with the modlog of one of the comms I used to moderate there. Your choice.

        I can tell you get off on imagining that your words carry some kind of intimidating weight over the internet

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          I can tell you get off on imagining that your words carry some kind of intimidating weight over the internet

          I can tell that you’re assumptive (i.e. stupid) as a brick and prone to make shit up about things that you cannot reliably know, such as what others imagine. (Unless you have a functional crystal ball. Yeah… nah.)

          Think for a moment on the purpose of that utterance in the context of the comment, and then hopefully even you will realise why it’s there. Spoilers: burden of proof.


          EDIT: hello to the people in The Dunk Tank! I’ll chew it for you all:

          • purpose - what that piece of text is doing in the whooole text. It’s just linguistics vocab leaking.
          • utterance - something said. Discourse analysis, same shit as above. If you want further info on that I recommend Bakhtin, as his approach towards DA borrows heavily from Marxism.
          • burden of proof - basically, “you prove it!”. The one bringing this up was not me, but the muppet who was then sharing this excerpt outside its context, in all their butthurtness*.

          I’ll also give myself the freedom to tag one of you, @MemesAreTheory@hexbear.net:

          Most well adjusted lost lib

          Nope. Trotskyist with some influences from Bakunin. And in case anyone wants to whine against Trotsky, check rule #3 (No sectarianism) .

          *they get really mad at the -ness suffix!

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              Why? For not playing along all this babble, where a gullible child blindly trusts .ml admins, gets all “waaah ur stupid!” and then a bunch of other kids are “WOW! THIS LOOKS LIKE OUR SKIBIDI PLAYGROUND FR FR?”

              I’m too old to care.

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            Most well adjusted Trot ppb-gigachad

            Shouldn’t you be selling a newspaper or something? There’s an entire thread dunking on you lmao. I must have really gotten to you to get a ping.

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              Most well adjusted Trot

              Now I’m OK with it.

              I’m not really mad at your comment, just trying to avoid the telephone game.

              Shouldn’t you be selling a newspaper or something?

              I’m writing it.

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              Nah. I just have little to no patience towards assumptive thus trashy people. Specially when they’re here just to shitpost, like you clearly are.

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            Dumbass rule #3 doesn’t cover trots, they’re the exception to the rule specifically because of dorks like you pika-pickaxe