I haven’t seen the show, but isn’t the dad meant to be incredibly controlling and fascistic in his worldview and is actually the overall villain of the show?
OK. I’m a fan of the comic. There’s a fascist villain that’s going to be introduced, but the dad isn’t it.
The dad’s character explores, for a bit, the trauma that following orders blindly can bring about.
Invincible
Written by Robert Kirkman. He also wrote the comic ‘the walking dead’. There was a tv show loosely based on it. Invincible is his love letter to super hero comics. He acknowledges tropes and then plays with them. It’s a lot of fun when it’s not dealing with heavy subjects.
It’s unfair to judge her as a girlfriend when it’s a bad relationship. Mark’s got priorities, and she isn’t one. It’s on both of them to advocate for themselves, and she was better than Mark at it.
Yours?
I like yours. I think she’s a bad girlfriend and that he’s a bad boyfriend, but the shows writers create a universe that only acknowledges one half of this and makes Mark out to be unreasonable when he responds to her poor treatment of him (which is a reaction to his poor treatment of her and so on and so on.).
This has made some people see only her as an issue, some people to see the issue with the metatext and some people just hate women, but these three get lumped together (I swear I’m going somewhere with this) which has then resulted in valid criticisms of Amber being treated like misogyny, because there’s a lot of misogynists criticizing Amber, which has then further inflamed what is really just a question of perspective into a larger issue, which the writers then tried to deal with in season 2, but not super well. (Trying to bring it back) Amber ends up being better at advocating for herself and Mark does get his say, but the wider text still treats Mark as the sole bad partner and Amber as the recipient of a bad partner (don’t wanna use the word victim because it does not victimize her). Even Marks close relations who knows how they treated each other, treats him as the only person who is at fault. This issue was really the root of the issue for a large group of people who took issue with Amber, so the cycle continues.
I like to call this the “female Ghostbusters” dynamic.
On the other hand I never finished season 2, so I don’t know the whole of it.
TL;dr they’re both bad, but the meta text treats Amber as not being bad, which has made an interesting relationship dynamic result in online discussions being inflammatory.
Well he is from a race of immortal übermensch Nietzschean imperialist that infiltrate and take over planets but he gets an redemption arc because muh wife and kids
Literally doing the shoot and cry trope.
“Yes on the one hand our soldiers did do the My Lai Massacre, but on the other hand they’re sad about it and they regret it.”
I haven’t seen the show, but isn’t the dad meant to be incredibly controlling and fascistic in his worldview and is actually the overall villain of the show?
Yeah pretty much.
OK. I’m a fan of the comic. There’s a fascist villain that’s going to be introduced, but the dad isn’t it. The dad’s character explores, for a bit, the trauma that following orders blindly can bring about.
What’s the name of the comic?
Invincible Written by Robert Kirkman. He also wrote the comic ‘the walking dead’. There was a tv show loosely based on it. Invincible is his love letter to super hero comics. He acknowledges tropes and then plays with them. It’s a lot of fun when it’s not dealing with heavy subjects.
Thanks
What’s your take on the whole Amanda is a bad girlfriend thing
It’s unfair to judge her as a girlfriend when it’s a bad relationship. Mark’s got priorities, and she isn’t one. It’s on both of them to advocate for themselves, and she was better than Mark at it. Yours?
I like yours. I think she’s a bad girlfriend and that he’s a bad boyfriend, but the shows writers create a universe that only acknowledges one half of this and makes Mark out to be unreasonable when he responds to her poor treatment of him (which is a reaction to his poor treatment of her and so on and so on.).
This has made some people see only her as an issue, some people to see the issue with the metatext and some people just hate women, but these three get lumped together (I swear I’m going somewhere with this) which has then resulted in valid criticisms of Amber being treated like misogyny, because there’s a lot of misogynists criticizing Amber, which has then further inflamed what is really just a question of perspective into a larger issue, which the writers then tried to deal with in season 2, but not super well. (Trying to bring it back) Amber ends up being better at advocating for herself and Mark does get his say, but the wider text still treats Mark as the sole bad partner and Amber as the recipient of a bad partner (don’t wanna use the word victim because it does not victimize her). Even Marks close relations who knows how they treated each other, treats him as the only person who is at fault. This issue was really the root of the issue for a large group of people who took issue with Amber, so the cycle continues.
I like to call this the “female Ghostbusters” dynamic.
On the other hand I never finished season 2, so I don’t know the whole of it.
TL;dr they’re both bad, but the meta text treats Amber as not being bad, which has made an interesting relationship dynamic result in online discussions being inflammatory.
Amber.
Well he is from a race of immortal übermensch Nietzschean imperialist that infiltrate and take over planets but he gets an redemption arc because muh wife and kids
Literally doing the shoot and cry trope.
“Yes on the one hand our soldiers did do the My Lai Massacre, but on the other hand they’re sad about it and they regret it.”
at the time of that dialog, yes