“The race for the White House is too close for comfort,” write parties from around Europe, calling on Stein to throw her support behind Democrat Kamala Harris.

Green politicians from across Europe on Friday called on U.S. Green Party presidential candidate Jill Stein to withdraw from the race for the White House and endorse Democrat Kamala Harris instead.

“We are clear that Kamala Harris is the only candidate who can block Donald Trump and his anti-democratic, authoritarian policies from the White House,” Green parties from countries including Germany, France, Denmark, Italy, the Netherlands, Ireland, Estonia, Belgium, Spain, Poland and Ukraine said in a statement, which was shared with POLITICO ahead of publication

  • shadowfax13@lemmy.mlEnglish
    2679·
    23 days ago

    and republicans exist the dnc can put a boogeyman every election so we will have to vote for these corrupt scammers. our political system is so broken that we either get lobbyists controlled genocidal hacks or a dumb racist genocider.

    its like asking to eat either dogpoop or vomited dogpoop

    • Doomsider@lemmy.world
      6014·
      23 days ago

      Two sides of the same coin am I right!? Get the fuck out of here with that bullshit.

      I grew up listening to Rush Limbaugh and other hate radio. There is no liberal comparison.

      They regularly called for the death of liberals amongst other horrible shit. The toxicity comparison is ridiculous when the other side is liberals saying they wish conservative voters were not misled.

      I get you don’t like the government. I don’t either, but this is not a god damned game of good cop bad cop.

      • shadowfax13@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1037·
        23 days ago

        They regularly called for the death of liberals amongst other horrible shit

        they are the same vocal minority as those on dnc side who have said if trumps wins then they want all muslims who didn’t vote for harris to be deported to gaza.

        they two parties may not be the same but they are both bad and corrupt enough that we need to start voting them out. after 2016 primaries i have no confidence in dnc to not rig the primaries against an actual liberal candidate again.

        there are easy things harris can still do to improve her chances but she is not even moral enough to disapprove genocide, progressive enough to disapprove fracking. she has failed upwards in the corrupt dnc as a token minority whose career has been of a smug prosecutor who has only looked down on minorities.

        but hey why not just run a propaganda campaign against jill stein who has been pro-climate since 1998.

        • Doomsider@lemmy.world
          389·
          23 days ago

          Trump fomented anti-muslim sentiment and literally passed a travel ban against Muslim countries.

          The RNC completely rolled over for Trump in ways far worse than the DNC snubbing Berny.

          Harris is not pro-genocide no matter how many times you say it. You make it out like decades of gloves on diplomacy with Israel is suddenly her fault.

          Trump is open to letting Israel do whatever it wants and while in office stroked tensions between Israel and Palestine several times.

          To blow off the fact that she would be the first woman president and to trivialize her to a token representative speaks a lot about your mindset.

          If Jill Stein endorses Harris knowing she is the only remotely pro-climate candidate that could win then perhaps she isn’t the piece of shit everyone says she is. I won’t hold my breath waiting.

          One side is climate change denialists and the other isn’t. Two sides of the same coin right?

          • shadowfax13@lemmy.mlEnglish
            823·
            23 days ago

            To blow off the fact that she would be the first woman president and to trivialize her to a token representative speaks a lot about your mindset

            let me detail out the “tokens” here. do know that i am of indian origin as well.

            • immigrant : her mother comes from a upper caste rich family, harris grandfather was a officer in imperial service while many indians were being killed and jailed during its independence struggles. an upper caste privilege in india was worse than white privilege in US at that time. her mother was able to come here as an entitlement. so when dnc uses her as a symbol for immigrant struggles it irks a lot of indian’s whose parents have to escape india because of corruption and casteism and had to work hard to get here and survive in early days.

            and then there is her advocating for border wall and getting tough on immigration so basically adopting trump policy from 2016.

            • as a non-white she doesn’t seem very empathetic to them : this is an article from 2020 in herrald when she was already chosen as vp over warren (a woman) because lobbyist and mega-rich donors told bidden not to. if not for that she would never even gotten to be a dnc candidate here in 2024. warren was 3rd in the primaries way ahead if harris. warren today would have won by a landslide today and she has already called out on the genocide.

            so yes she is a token candidate from establishment.

            i am not even going to address other points as i am not voting or supporting gop. if a vp and presidential nominee don’t not even have power of condemning mass killing of children with our money then what’s the point of voting for them. choosing lesser evils never works it only brings more evil as we saw in 2020.

            then there are stunts like this which confirms to me that she is just a lobbyists placeholder.

          • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            824·
            23 days ago

            Sounds like a alabama, Georgia, texas issue. Easily handled by the people in those states. Just like it has been in every other state. Harris isnt even the solution for abortion nationally, she even admitted this; she wouldn’t do anything differently than biden. Congressional dems are.

            Learn to properly focus your energy.

            • Jumpingspiderman@reddthat.comEnglish
              122·
              23 days ago

              Except, I’m reasonably happy with what Biden’s done in his term. Especially when one considers what a second Trump term would be.

              • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                25·
                23 days ago

                agreed, its too bad harris is fumbling the ball on such minor issues too, like labor rights and genocide. 🤷 no one to blame but herself.

            • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
              61·
              22 days ago

              You sound like someone who would have questioned the need for ending segregation because it “Sounds like a [Spanish Word For Black] problem to me!”

              • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                29·
                22 days ago

                mmmmmm; probably would have been shot in the war fighting against it more honestly. let me know when harris can single handedly pass abortion rights on her own that the discussion can go somewhere. as I said the fastest route to protecting access is via state legislatures. hence why what 8 states have it on the ballot this year? would I prefer it federally? sure. sadly for you all my reps already support such a position and I doubt trump would block it if the bill passed. but since such a bill won’t pass congress shrug.

                Its not a compelling reason by itself to vote for harris; since you know… she can’t single handedly make it happen.

                • Queen HawlSera@lemm.eeEnglish
                  6·
                  22 days ago

                  1. She can appoint Supreme Court Justices that can re-instate Roe V. Wade

                  2. Voting for Harris means voting for a blue congress assuming you voted down ballot

                  3. https://www.propublica.org/article/nevaeh-crain-death-texas-abortion-ban-emtala - This woman was murdered because of people with your kind of “Not my problem attitude”

                  4. You say you’d have been shot fighting against segregation, but you can only say this with hindsight having lived in a world where you were already told it was wrong. Judging by your current actions, if segregation was already the status quo you’d just say that black people should solve their own problems despite the fact that attempts for “Colored-Only Areas” as they were called back then to create a “Black Wallstreet” were met with white police officers burning down “Black Wallstreet”

                  • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                    15·
                    22 days ago
                    1. Incorrect, first there needs to be vacancies, know any justices retiring? Second she’d need congressional approval, so again nothing she can do herself.
                    2. No you can’t make that assumption. Trivially demonstrated by literally the fact the last 40 years we’ve had what? Maybe 6 years of that scenario being true? Sometimes only months at a time.
                    3. No, she was murdered by Texans in particular abbot and his ilk. Your next best person to lay blame on is biden. And i didnt want him for this exact reason he doesnt have the moral core to break rules when necessary, except apparently for a genocide. Ug. My ilk dont support such shit bags in the first place. We don’t follow the lesser evil nonsense. We supplant it. Every. Time.
                    4. No I can say it pretty safely. You’re literally arguing with a person trying to prevent muslims being murdered in another country.

                    Jesus havent seen someone be so wrong all month and ive been dealing with genocidal asses all year.

                    My reps already support the things you’re asking for. Harris is literally the greater evil in my state because trump isnt even on the radar. Ive done all i can for you. 🤷. You at least still currently have a vote. Pray Harris’ horrible campaigning hasnt put that at risk.

                    You dont like what im telling you because its hard. But if you want the things you claim to want you have to put the effort in.

                    You dont get to rely on me. not because I don’t want those things for you and others, but because im not in your area to help you carry the burden and short of an armed insurgency for you my state is maxed out on the support it can offer, though we do export a lot of blue babies to other states…

            • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
              61·
              23 days ago

              “why don’t those people just immediately and magically fix their problems?” -this guy

              I swear, some people should not be allowed to reproduce. Understand nothing, but the first to speak up and argue.

              • aidan@lemmy.world
                13·
                22 days ago

                All I said was that at the federal level abortion still is legal(which it is), and you just went on a tirade against me…

              • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                37·
                23 days ago

                lol, says the person ignoring the literal mountains of evidence saying an abortion ballot measure will pass literally in any state. it literally passed in kansas. Now if you want such a bill elect congress critters that will pass it. harris is immaterial until that happens. for some reason I doubt trump would veto such a bill; not because he said it but because he doesn’t generally care about shit unless it impacts him personally. But given congress has avoided passing such a bill in the past color me doubtful it will now. what else will they run on if not abortion and not trump? looks at harris’ policies

                frankly if abortion is your defining reason to vote for harris well shrug that makes you a single issue voter and I thought they were bad? but maybe I’m fairly indifferent since my state already has enshrined abortions as law and I can’t solve all the worlds issues. especially the ones that are easily resolved at the ballot box.

                so again, trump is an abomination, and learn to focus your efforts. harris isn’t some magic solution to americas problems. I’ll be over here getting ranked choice in my state.

                • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
                  2·
                  22 days ago

                  I’m sorry, let me just elect representatives in a different state, brb.

                  If it was so simple, explain why it has taken so many state governments so long to do something about it? It’s almost like it’s way more complicated than you make it out to be. My state has abortion on the ballot this time around - I don’t expect it to pass. In addition, the state wants to make my harder for citizens to get further measures on the ballot. It’s like lots of us are working against the awful bodies of government. Imagine that. Land of the free, mmmmhm.

                  Also lmfao, yes, mmhm, absolutely, I’m a single-issue voter. Honey, I’m gay as fuck, the day a baby pops out of my partners asshole because I knocked them up, the day I’m the fuck outta here. It’s almost like people with a broad worldview can have multiple issues they care about or something, and - stay with me here - they don’t need to be a member of an affected class to want to help them improve their lives and well-being. Crazy, right?

                  The loudest people don’t have a damn clue what the hell they are arguing about, they just want to hear themselves speaking louder than others. “I got mine, suckers, ez pz” energy is strong with this one. It’s okay though, they are getting ranked-choice… aaaaaaaaany day now… (it’s okay, it’s ez pz)

                  • jatone@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                    12·
                    22 days ago

                    I have sympathy for your plight, but your efforts are better spent getting people in your state to pass the law than relying on Democrats nationally to do the right thing.

                    Harris’ is not the solution ™ to your problem. The president is not responsible for passing legislation. Stop relying on blue states and fix yours. I know it’s hard.

                    Look how hard you are fighting against someone who generally is just trying to get the US to stop arming a genocide? Can you imagine how annoyingly stupid this feels to be discussing? Murder bad mmmmkay? Everyone else: ‘its fine bigger issues to fry trump!’ i suspect you can.

                    Now put it in perspective: if you cant get your state to support abortion what makes you think we’ll get the nation to? In order to get it passed nationally you need to get the support locally.

                    You clearly have trauma and need help, sadly putting your hopes in kamala isnt going to solve your issues. I assure you if they havent been fixed by biden’s admin they wont be fixed by her being elected. Here are the conditions you’ll need to see movement:

                    • house will need to switch hands
                    • senate will need to remain blue.
                    • democrats will have to end the fillibuster OR get supermajority in the senate.

                    Guess how all of those happen? By focusing your efforts not on kamala but on your local elections.

                    Learn to focus your energy stop fighting me and get off your ass locally. My lesser evil is fucking voting 3rd party because kamala is a pos candidate relative to my state. she’s 100% going to win here. So why are you wasting my and your time/energy you clearly gave more important shit to do.

          • aidan@lemmy.world
            12·
            22 days ago

            Anything that is not illegal is legal. Federally abortion is not illegal.

        • wreckedcarzz@lemmy.worldEnglish
          81·
          23 days ago

          This is how unaware and/or uneducated some people are. It’s been over two years since federal protection was removed.

          And people like this are voting. Given licenses to drive. Reproducing. Totally oblivious.

          • aidan@lemmy.world
            14·
            22 days ago

            What? It is federally legal, it is just some states have bans. Contrast that with something like weed where its federally illegal but some states say they won’t prosecute.

      • shadowfax13@lemmy.mlEnglish
        1035·
        23 days ago

        this excuse again ? talk to some women in real life ? they don’t want this cause insulted by even comparing it to butchering of all the women and children by our money ? what choice they had on getting aborted by idf ?

        did she got a choice ?

        or them https://truthout.org/articles/idf-shot-at-pregnant-civilian-outside-gaza-hospital-under-siege-staffer-says/ ?

        https://www.cbsnews.com/news/israeli-t-shirts-joke-about-killing-arabs/

    • Valmond@lemmy.world
      2313·
      23 days ago

      Checks watch: phew, only 4 days left before the “gEnOcIdErS” leave forever.