Donald Trump has been elected the 47th president of the United States, an extraordinary comeback for a former president who refused to accept defeat four years ago, sparked a violent insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, was convicted of felony charges and survived two assassination attempts.

  • Bobr@lemmy.libertarianfellowship.org
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    9 hours ago

    Yeah, that’s a monkey paw wish. His “ending the war in Ukraine” almost certainly means giving Putin whatever he wants.

    Even if you are right (I don’t think so), so what?

    How is this worse then what is hapenning now (to Ukrainians)?

    Inb4 probably some delusiomal fantasies about how Putin is gonna invade the whole world, etc. :/

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      7 hours ago

      I recall they said the same about Hilter. It was called appeasement. Don’t accept bullies demands. Period.

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        I recall they said the same about Hilter. It was called appeasement. Don’t accept bullies demands. Period.

        Then go sign up for foreign legion and go make sure Putin loses. Don’t make Ukrainians die instead of you for your wild fantasies.

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          16 minutes ago

          Make them die? They can surrender themselves right? As long as they want to fight I see no reason not to supply them with the means to usurp the oppressers.

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            Make them die?

            Yes, exactly.

            They can surrender themselves right?

            How? Surrendering in modern warfare is super hard, you will either be droned by enemy because they mistake your surrendering for attacking, or by your side for surrendering.

            As long as they want to fight I see no reason not to supply them with the means to usurp the oppressers.

            Sure, supply those who want to fight. You do know though, that people in Ukraine are given no choice? Zelensky forbade people to leave the country (and he is way more successful at keeping the western border safe (that is, from people wanting to escape this hell) - weak against strong ones, and strong against weak ones). Zelensky’s regime kidnaps people from the streets and sends them to the meatgrinder. If you care about “helping people fight against oppressive regimes” you should support those people, not the ones terrorizing them.