• Cruxifux@feddit.nl
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    7 hours ago

    Tipping is bullshit. Restaurants should pay their workers properly. But I’m not gonna punish the server for that. She has zero control over that.

    If I can’t afford to tip then I just don’t go to the restaurant. People would prefer to make up excuses for why they don’t wanna tip and how that doesn’t make them an asshole while taking huge huffs of their own farts. If you don’t like the tipping culture just go to a fast food restaurant or make your own food. Why is everybody such whiney bitches about everything?

    • Dragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nz
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      2 hours ago

      Drag never tips while eating out.

      Drag also lives in a country with a livable minimum wage and no tipping culture.

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      Can you just not tip? We live in a tipping society too, but tipping is just goodwill. Like if your waiter is really nice, and the whole thing was 115 dollars, you might give him 120 and he can keep the difference. Sometimes just a roundup, fromm 5.60 to 6 bucks or something. But it’s not expected.

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        59 minutes ago

        Presumably, your country pays its servers a living wage so they don’t have to scrape by on tips. This has been the state of the US labor market in most non-fast food restaurants for decades:

        A tipped employee engages in an occupation in which he or she customarily and regularly receives more than $30 per month in tips. An employer of a tipped employee is only required to pay $2.13 per hour in direct wages if that amount combined with the tips received at least equals the federal minimum wage [$7.25 per hour]. If the employee’s tips combined with the employer’s direct wages of at least $2.13 per hour do not equal the federal minimum hourly wage, the employer must make up the difference. Many states, however, require higher direct wage amounts for tipped employees.

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      6 hours ago

      So you hate the tipping culture but also hate people who want it abolished. That’s just beyond stupid.

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        6 hours ago

        No, I hate the people who say they want it abolished and use that as an excuse to not pay their waiters. I made it plainly clear in my explanation, I honestly don’t know how to dumb it down for you anymore man.

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          Lol yeah the “I went to the restaurant but didn’t tip to teach everyone a lesson” is the same as “I voted for the third party to teach everyone a lesson.”

          No, you gave the restaurant owner their profit and the employee nothing. You helped no one, you taught no lessons, and if we could harness your mental gymnastics as physical gymnastics we would have infinite renewable energy.

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        Like not tipping is going to abolish anything. You walk in, pay the owner and leave the worker hanging. Why would the owner care?

        It’s not like all the waiters can stay home waiting for something to change, people gotta live. Stop going to restaurants if you don’t want to tip

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          Why do you hate me for not wanting to tip, and not the employer who does not want to pay a living wage to it’s worker because the law does not oblige him to.

          Why do you blame me and not the government who regulated the law to allow rich people to become more rich by having part of their salary expenses covered by the public?

          This is a perfect example of privatizing the profits and socializing the losses

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            This makes 0 sense and isn’t worth replying to. It’s not really your fault though, your education system failed you.

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              You really showed me now, huh? Shame, I actually really thought you were the kind of person to clash viewpoints with and come out with something constructive after.

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          To be fair, that’s not the actual alternative for the waiter. The waiter either accepts their income as it is with some people not providing a tip, or they can opt for other employment like the rest of the workforce that isn’t tipped. They don’t have to sit at home waiting for things to change like helpless puppies.

          I’m in California though so we don’t have any of that wage fuckery where they can be paid less than minimum wage if tips make up a significant portion of their income. It’s $17.55 hour minimum plus tips where I’m at.

          I’d really rather see tipping outlawed along with all other obscured fees and just pay what you need to pay to have waiters and charge what you need to charge to have a business transparently printed on the menu.

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            Ahh yes other employment! How come nobody ever thought of that… Just get another job of course. Taxi driver don’t like their wage? Why dont they change jobs. Improper ppe? Just quit. Minimum wage at mcdonalds not livable? Change jobs bro. Bad / dangerous working conditions? You know it… Change jobs! Why do we even bother with oversight like OSHA when all construction workers need is to change jobs when things arent properly done. Contractors will figure it out eventually! California should do away with their pesky wage rules,“to be fair” they aren’t necessary, workers won’t be sitting at home waiting for it.

            It’s so ridiculous of an answer ill go back to arguing with those who think they shouldn’t tip. We’d all prefer to see it outlawed.

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        This place is just as toxic as reddit lol, it was a valid question.

        Edit: and before people get confused by my username, I haven’t been back to reddit since the day RIF stopped working.

        • Dragon "Rider"(drag)@lemmy.nz
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          Exactly, gender isn’t important. You could have done the convenient thing and they/themed the imaginary waiter. Why did you choose to go to the effort of assigning a gender when gender has nothing to do with your point?

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          It’s not an attack, you don’t need to get so defensive. It just stood out to me.