• dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works
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      20 minutes ago

      Cooked pasta (macaroni noodles are short elbow-shaped tubes) typically mixed with milk and one or more cheeses mixed until smooth.

      Of course, the vegan varieties would use dairy substitutes.

  • whoisearth@lemmy.ca
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    Let’s see the cost difference here as well.

    Vegan is expensive AF if I’m expected to like for like replace normal with vegan (ie. Vegan cheese)

    I lean vegetarian because fuck living without eggs, butter and cheese lol

    Personally speaking I’d do a vegetarian thanksgiving without tofurky. People try to hard to replicate meat. Just accept no meat and be done with it. It’s so much better.

    For the record I’m doing a turkwy for Christmas and it will be delicious lol

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      I’m not a vegan and I take issue with you saying you’ll have a delicious turkey… I’m not sure such a thing exists.

      That said, I DID just finish putting one in a brine…

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        I do turkey once a year because I am not a fan. It will be delicious to never be seen for another year lol.

        I’ve become more vegetarian friendly over the years but Jesus I hate this fake meat trend. Some of us frankly don’t care about not having something that tastes like meat. I don’t want an ass beyond burger I want an awesome homemade black bean burger.

        I get we are trying to encourage people who would eat meat to not eat meat but it’s really like tying your hand behind your back when it comes to enjoying your food because it will never match meat so why try?

        Veggies rule.

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    Cheese has been one of the hardest things for my partner and I to give up

    It’s cheap, tasty, and it’s a decent source of protein

    We’re finally getting tasty vegan cheese (Rebel cheese is a favorite of ours) but it’s expensive and often is pure fat.

    I’m hoping we’ll get more innovation in vegan cheeses but in the meanwhile I’m going to keep looking for good alternatives

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      Do you need a different cheese for each use case? Like a good vegan cheese to sprinkle on as a topping, a good one that will melt, one to have on sandwiches, and so on?

      I imagine you would. I’ve tried a few vegan varieties and had pretty bad luck: it has all tasted like the cheapest diner version of that cheese or butter I’ve ever had. So far kinda unfortunate.

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        I like violife for places where I’d use shredded cheese. It’s a decent option for pizza and especially for tacos. I just wish it was as rich in protein as animal cheese

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      Stuffing as in, stuffed into an animal carcass… If you cook it in a pan it’s called dressing

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    14 hours ago

    Is this saying that Mac n cheese is worse for the environment* than turkey?

    *Produces more CO^2

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      14 hours ago

      Yes

      The single dish with the highest carbon footprint is not the meat — it’s the mac n cheese.

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      I haven’t voted on this post, but the data is not really presented in a beautiful or especially interesting way.

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      The article actually goes into some nice detail, but people wouldn’t know that from the extremely obvious title.

      OP is posting this as a narrative with a preachy agenda, and that will turn people away before they even get to the content.

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          The title is preachy. It is correct based on the data presented, but still preachy. The title of the article is good.

          The data itself is probably fine, but it’s hand picked to come to that specific conclusion. I’ve had many vegetarian Thanksgivings, and I’ve never had Mac and Cheese at one.