• Bronzebeard@lemm.ee
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    22 days ago

    It’s almost as if, when people aren’t taken in shitty jobs or of necessity and constantly worrying about survival, they can find work they actually enjoy doing, without worrying as much about the compensation.

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      21 days ago

      But then who will pick up my trash that I throw in the public park? Who will parent my children? Who will fix my toilet and plumbing? Who can I yell at while waiting for my coffee?

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        21 days ago

        The ai powered robots that will be replacing thousands of employment options in the next couple decades

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            21 days ago

            Why do you think they’re racing to make the most anthro-adjacent bots out there? Most of us would’ve been friends with an R2 unit or BB-8, BD-1, a mouse droid or four, but nooo. Corpo wants us to see it cry. 😶

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        21 days ago

        People still want more than 12 thousand a year.

        So anyone you like, but the price for keeping someone turning up to any menial working environments raises a lot.

        Plumbing is already a skilled trade, there will be no shortage of plumbers. They will work for the money. Of course you might find they’ll walk more easily if treated with disrespect. Honestly that’ll happen with a good plumber now.

        The same will happen to all jobs. You can’t yell at anyone anymore or you’ll be refused service.

        If no one had to be there the worst customers who ruin service work suddenly have to behave like decent human beings all the time. Or they don’t get the privilege of being a customer.

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        21 days ago

        People that enjoy those things. There’s plenty of people with cleaning fixations, with scat fetishes, with emotional masochistic tendencies to do all of that.

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          21 days ago

          I doubt most plumbers have scat fetishes. They just don’t care about getting shit on their hands as much as the average person and are happy to take your money for a job not everyone would be willing to do.

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            21 days ago

            Correct, right now they don’t because there is a money incentive. The satirically asked question is who would do that job if money wasn’t needed, if there was no incentive besides the work.

            This study among others consistently show people want to work, in jobs that give them meaning, even when there is no incentive like capital or currency.

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              21 days ago

              First, this study is about UBI, which isn’t about removing the need to work, per se, but about making that need less than how shitty some jobs are. So a job that many find unpleasant would still be attractive to many people for the exact reasons they are right now.

              Now, in your utopian references, you talk about jobs with meaning beyond the financial. Why wouldn’t providing and maintaining spaces for people to live and work in a safe and healthy environment, such as one with properly maintained plumbing, not be fulfilling in itself, without some fetish to add incentive?