I started the discussion because I saw that may be you didn’t understand a part of it, where new messages came more weird.
In this message, you literally show an green pass for laws choosing how to kill pigs (not caring about their rights even but just reducing suffering) and try to adornate it (without direct mention) in a “everything counts” (dont know exact translation) informal fallacy trying to justify by supposed benefits, and camouflage things as “help people understand the issues”, help to understand what? That you must reduce suffering of animals and this make them easy in the allowlist?
I dont know the organizations you mention and didnt check, but if they do that, they are not better that most ones out there calling themselves animal welfarists and/or animalists.
And you start feeling entitled to self-validate your things because you believe you have more age (even if you have which is the case) than me?
However, you don’t even differenciate between moral agent and moral subject to the point you even try to show a wrong version of “exploitation” which seems to come only in this message and not the rest in a way to put these as my own words.
In other terms, you seem to take advantage of this discussion to call this as “my way to convince people”.
The way for veganism is educational activism, and not, this is not what I am doing here and sadly not what I do currently but a goal.
However, I think you appreciate that since the beginning and you only point it here as some kind of giving your reasoning a green pass.
I started the discussion because I saw that may be you didn’t understand a part of it, where new messages came more weird.
In this message, you literally show an green pass for laws choosing how to kill pigs (not caring about their rights even but just reducing suffering) and try to adornate it (without direct mention) in a “everything counts” (dont know exact translation) informal fallacy trying to justify by supposed benefits, and camouflage things as “help people understand the issues”, help to understand what? That you must reduce suffering of animals and this make them easy in the allowlist?
I dont know the organizations you mention and didnt check, but if they do that, they are not better that most ones out there calling themselves animal welfarists and/or animalists.
And you start feeling entitled to self-validate your things because you believe you have more age (even if you have which is the case) than me?
However, you don’t even differenciate between moral agent and moral subject to the point you even try to show a wrong version of “exploitation” which seems to come only in this message and not the rest in a way to put these as my own words.
In other terms, you seem to take advantage of this discussion to call this as “my way to convince people”.
The way for veganism is educational activism, and not, this is not what I am doing here and sadly not what I do currently but a goal.
However, I think you appreciate that since the beginning and you only point it here as some kind of giving your reasoning a green pass.