Meh, it seems he was just another right wing douchebag who got radicalized when it impacted him. As much as I like a keystone cops story, I don’t much care that he got caught - even though the CEO had it coming. Maybe his buddy Elon will have Trump write him a pardon.
Strange. Every comment I saw on here about him was overwhelmingly positive and as soon as he was identified I’ve seen a lot of comments calling him right-wing, and anything to distract from the fact that people were coming together to celebrate what he did.
It’s almost as if people have received their talking points on how to keep us divided.
I don’t give a fuck if he liked right wing media figures. Class solidarity is the most important motherfucking thing we have right now and I’ll be damned if we let people distract us from that.
There is a lot more than liking right wing media figures. Class solidarity is a bit of a stretch since his family wealth is closer to what that CEO had than most Americans.
Is the enemy of my enemy my friend? Maybe. I’m just not sure this guy is a great banner carrier. I respect your opinion and realize I’m in the minority. I’d be much happier if he was never caught. I don’t desire to see him punished, but I don’t see it being helpful if he gets painted as the next Ted Kaczynski. His background is just not helpful.
He has some sus takes about some things but as far as healthcare and connecting corporate greed to violence against society (that must be fought violently) he’s 100% right.
I don’t think it’s productive to diminish what he did with some tech-bro tweets when he’d barely became an adult. Tweets don’t mean shit.
It’s not supposed to be productive, they are working to keep us divided. He did a good thing and all sides of the political spectrum were uniting behind that… So obviously people need to begin to drive wedges between us now that we’ve had a tiny taste of hope for change.
TBH I think it was always clear that he was going to be at least somewhat right-coded given that he was so competent with firearms.
I personally don’t care what he thinks about pronouns or whatever, unlike Rittenhouse or that subway guy he actually went after one of America’s true villains. The right wing violence in this country finally found a legitimate target.
I respect your take, but you’d probably be surprised how many lefties are proficient with firearms. It’s liberals that generally hate guns, although even that’s less true in the US. Marx himself was adamant that workers should retain the right to own firearms.
The SRA Socialist Rifle Association has over 10k members in the US. Not exactly the 5m members of the NRA, but I’ll bet there are more lefties in the NRA than the SRA, just because it is so ubiquitous.
Do you have a link backing that up? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but the coverage so far has only turned up a handful of anodyne links and news stories.
I said “seems” because only bits of information have come out and there as been very little analysis. That said, Rational National has the best take I’ve seen so far.
Bro he was a centrist liberal, believing in things like Darwinism and class warfare.
He was likely triggered because of losing insurance around the age of 26 and the utter disaster it is to manage one’s own health insurance. Hence the lashing out at the health insurance industry
Um, really? Darwinism is now the dividing line between right wing and liberal? Hitler was a liberal? Are you unaware of how Nazi propaganda equated Jews with wealthy bankers and merchants to harness class resentment?
I’m not saying he is Hitler, but your bar for right wing is pretty damning of the American educational system.
It’s an amazingly accurate stereotype that right wingers change their opinion on an issue the moment it impacts them. I’m sure you’re on track with his motive, but that doesn’t make him a liberal.
I hated the news more than usual today.
Same
Meh, it seems he was just another right wing douchebag who got radicalized when it impacted him. As much as I like a keystone cops story, I don’t much care that he got caught - even though the CEO had it coming. Maybe his buddy Elon will have Trump write him a pardon.
LOL, he shot a CEO, not somebody from an ethnic minority. Trump and Musk won’t lift a finger to help him.
Strange. Every comment I saw on here about him was overwhelmingly positive and as soon as he was identified I’ve seen a lot of comments calling him right-wing, and anything to distract from the fact that people were coming together to celebrate what he did.
It’s almost as if people have received their talking points on how to keep us divided.
I don’t give a fuck if he liked right wing media figures. Class solidarity is the most important motherfucking thing we have right now and I’ll be damned if we let people distract us from that.
There is a lot more than liking right wing media figures. Class solidarity is a bit of a stretch since his family wealth is closer to what that CEO had than most Americans.
Is the enemy of my enemy my friend? Maybe. I’m just not sure this guy is a great banner carrier. I respect your opinion and realize I’m in the minority. I’d be much happier if he was never caught. I don’t desire to see him punished, but I don’t see it being helpful if he gets painted as the next Ted Kaczynski. His background is just not helpful.
Well, stop portraying him like that. You’re beginning to perpetuate the narrative you don’t want to see.
Love the act, hate the agent?
His political affiliation is a distraction that ultimately only serves to hurt us. Even if it is him that they caught, he did a good thing.
Actions speak louder than words tbh
He has some sus takes about some things but as far as healthcare and connecting corporate greed to violence against society (that must be fought violently) he’s 100% right.
I don’t think it’s productive to diminish what he did with some tech-bro tweets when he’d barely became an adult. Tweets don’t mean shit.
It’s not supposed to be productive, they are working to keep us divided. He did a good thing and all sides of the political spectrum were uniting behind that… So obviously people need to begin to drive wedges between us now that we’ve had a tiny taste of hope for change.
“They” aren’t on Lemmy dude. Our underwater basket weaving forum is safe.
also who cares? everyone has flaws. at elast his were targetted correctly.
TBH I think it was always clear that he was going to be at least somewhat right-coded given that he was so competent with firearms.
I personally don’t care what he thinks about pronouns or whatever, unlike Rittenhouse or that subway guy he actually went after one of America’s true villains. The right wing violence in this country finally found a legitimate target.
I respect your take, but you’d probably be surprised how many lefties are proficient with firearms. It’s liberals that generally hate guns, although even that’s less true in the US. Marx himself was adamant that workers should retain the right to own firearms.
The SRA Socialist Rifle Association has over 10k members in the US. Not exactly the 5m members of the NRA, but I’ll bet there are more lefties in the NRA than the SRA, just because it is so ubiquitous.
Do you have a link backing that up? I’m not saying you’re wrong, but the coverage so far has only turned up a handful of anodyne links and news stories.
I said “seems” because only bits of information have come out and there as been very little analysis. That said, Rational National has the best take I’ve seen so far.
https://youtu.be/FXhEBSQRI3Y
Hmmmmmm… rational national looks suspiciously like our guy. they sure they have the right man? =p
Rightwing?
Bro he was a centrist liberal, believing in things like Darwinism and class warfare.
He was likely triggered because of losing insurance around the age of 26 and the utter disaster it is to manage one’s own health insurance. Hence the lashing out at the health insurance industry
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Thanks for pulling the receipts, I admit I was listening to a stream while this news broke
Um, really? Darwinism is now the dividing line between right wing and liberal? Hitler was a liberal? Are you unaware of how Nazi propaganda equated Jews with wealthy bankers and merchants to harness class resentment?
I’m not saying he is Hitler, but your bar for right wing is pretty damning of the American educational system.
It’s an amazingly accurate stereotype that right wingers change their opinion on an issue the moment it impacts them. I’m sure you’re on track with his motive, but that doesn’t make him a liberal.
Good to know.