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!dailygames@lemmy.zip is self-sustained by now. A lot of regulars are posting games every day. With 600 monthly users I can sit back, play some games myself and watch the community thrive.
is self-sustained by now
With 600 monthly users I can sit back, play some games myself and watch the community thrive.
Well done! That’s definitely a nice feeling!
Wow, that’s awesome! Subscribed!
Myself, I’m working on formatting a huge list of my favorite online games, a project which I’ve been refining for years. Assuming I understand your sumlemmy correctly, I’ll have to post it there and see if anyone has anything to add…
For sure, feel free to post it. We already have a couple of curated lists linked in the sidebar. Always nice to discover some new games.
Great!
I’m feeling a bit burnt out lately. I’m having fun running the Owl of the Year tournament again, but I’m a little tired of making regular posts at the moment.
A lot of stressful things are going on in my personal life, so I don’t know if that’s it, or if I just need a break from the specific content, or what. Maybe I’m just complaining to burn off some anxiety.
But out of my frustration and reading the post from the person in the journaling community, it got me thinking about something like a Post Exchange Program.
Either in Fedigrow or a separate comm, one person could submit a request let’s say.
Community: Superbowl@lemmy.world
Posts Requested: 1
Subject: AnyOne of you guys with your own community could reply with a trade.
Bun Alert System
Subject: FunnyAnd you could accept or pass on a post swap.
I thought it could get a fresh set of ideas into some of the communities, and if there was a kind of content I wanted but didn’t have the time or knowledge, maybe someone seeing a want ad would be motivated to post.
I wouldn’t mind learning about some other topics that I could research occasionally. Even if it’s just find a pic you think is cool or funny, you would bring in what someone other than just yourself thinks is good all the time.
This is just like 15 minutes of thinking about it, but if anyone feels this is worth pursuing, maybe we can refine something.
It may even just be easier if some of us could partner up with other people we like their work or a subject we’re interested in. Even if they aren’t people that frequent Fedigrow, if a few of us or says let’s pick one community a week and as a group we each toss a post or two to that community during the week.
I think a lot of us are doing the best a single person can do in there own and maybe some organized collabs could take some of these things to the next level.
Thoughts?
I’m feeling a bit burnt out lately.
Lord-a-mighty, whaaaat?
Maître des hiboux, I’ve never seen near-anyroad what you’ve accomplished so far across almost ANY venue. I find it astonishing, frankly…
Hah, all you guys always make me feel like I’m doing something important! 😅
Ahh… I suspect it’s pretty-much just petty jealousy, for my part!
For example-- I happen to be nowhere near able to post on my SubLemmy as often as you and (for example) @FlyingSquid@lemmy.world do on yours. All hail, because you folks are TOPS.
(so once per day is the absolute height of my powers, and meanwhile it sometimes takes me a week to post again, particularly when I’m scorchingly butthurt)
So y’all kinda crush me in that sense, and sometimes, here and there, I just feel like a pathetic failure by not being able to get with that same spirit, or however it’s best-described.
I also find that you two are pretty dang *genius* about coming up with fun, hilarious post titles, something I really admire and appreciate. Because really, it’s a dang-ol’ art! ❤️
We all admire things other people do, we’ve all got to find our right spot in the ecosystem.
Squid’s got the time, but I think that’s because of some medical stuff. Blaze does so much community work. Pseudo is always checking out all kinds of activity pub platforms trying to make the most out of all these new tools. I know there’s names I recognize but I didn’t necessarily read what they do because it’s not my thing.
I make most of my posts ahead of time during times I’m just sitting around and post after I eat breakfast, then I can answer questions during my downtime at work while my machines are running.
It stinks you got trashed on in your own community. As soon as I opened it, I knew what it was though. People here get very butthurt on AI stuff, but I don’t think what you did is bad. I don’t like people that either try to make money off it or pass out off as real photos, but you didn’t do that, you just tried to add atmosphere to your story.
I still feel like I stink at this sometimes too. I was worried I was going to dip down to the 3 page of the community ranks before the tournament kicked off. Now I’m almost back to the first. New subs are down, so I feel I’ve peaked. There’s commenters I don’t see come by anymore and I feel they got bored with me. Someone new will post and get way more views than my stuff. There’s always something.
But I’m here doing my thing. I share what I enjoy and try to get you to enjoy it with me. It’s what I’d do if we were trying to be friends in person. I just want this to be a nice place to be, do I do what I feel is conducive to that.
Oh rabbits, I really appreciate that, mate. Like, things are always so much better when we have a kinder, more reasonable, more gentler setting, is it not?
I was worried I was going to dip down to the 3 page of the community ranks before the tournament kicked off. Now I’m almost back to the first. New subs are down, so I feel I’ve peaked. There’s commenters I don’t see come by anymore and I feel they got bored with me. Someone new will post and get way more views than my stuff. There’s always something.
Wait, what???
Ah, okay, I think I get you right there? But bloody-hell (and muvvle-fluffle) mate, absolutely NO-ONE would be able to keep up with that schedule…! (like, is that a TRUE reason to beat yourself up?)It’s like… you set records that should NOT be able to be broken, and then you break them!
Mssr-- you make me proud across a perfect LATITUDE of reasons, cheesy as that may sound, haha. Yet… well… come on. *When* exactly do you get to recognise yourself, right?
When exactly do you get to recognise yourself, right?
“Real me” is a quiet introvert with no sense of self esteem and medicated but still existing major depression. So… never! 😅
You guys get my professional face. I’m here doing my job. It gives me focus and purpose I need. I got all this research to share with you because I’m rather hermit-ish and would rather be learning than doing most things.
When you guys tell me I’m doing good, I do believe you. But my wiring doesn’t let me tell me that. I don’t beat myself up about it so negatively anymore, but it keeps me pushing forward constantly.
I try to make my shortcomings work for me. I’m glad I get to make so many of you happy. This is more attention and a bigger audience than I would have ever believed I’d have or would have wanted. But I’m not anyone extraordinary, I’m just trying to be the best me.
Hey, just wanted to say your posts lighten up me and my partner’s day. I always send the threads to her so she can take a break from work and look at the cute or funny owls.
She really loves the posts but she doesn’t have an account so she will never engage with the content I’m afraid. So let me say it here and now: thank you for making our day better :)
As long as the message is getting out and people are having fun, that’s all I want to see!
I’m always glad to hear the posts make you guys happy. There’s less and less content I end up engaging with as we all get more frustrated with a lot of current events, and I am glad that the people sharing that stuff are keeping us informed, but it does get to be a lot.
I try to always give you something happy or hopeful to keep your spirits up. I’m very glad to hear I’m still having success in that! I appreciate all of you!
I like the idea!
I recently linked !nowhereelsetoshare@sh.itjust.works in a comment for the first time. Brought in about 25 news subs and hit 600 subscriber milestone.
Cool, joined
Welcome! Enjoy the hodgepodge.
Trying to revitalize !journaling@sh.itjust.works. So far, after maybe 3 weeks regularly posting stuff, I’m still the sole poster but members have started commenting which is already great and very encouraging. I’ve also noticed a few new subscribers joining the community, at least 10 (I forgot to note the initial number so it’s probably a little more than that), which I find very encouraging too.
That being said, I have zero idea what I’m doing (and how well), I just want to try. I asked for the community ‘lead’ (is that how I should say?) because, well, it had been inactive for a year or so. And because no one else asked for it. And because as a lifelong journaler myself I know how useful (and so much more than that) keeping a journal is. It was so sad to see it not moving at all, I wanted to give the community a chance to grow and become more active.
I’ve discovered Fedigrow this very morning and it feels like it’s exactly the place I didn’t now I urgently needed to find. I’ve started reading a few discussions and already grabbed a few cool ideas. Thx :)
Welcome here, and well done with your community!
Thx!
I’m thinking of adding “Question of the Week” type of thread to !publictransport@slrpnk.net
Also, I’m still not sure what type of posts succeed the most. Whether it’s discussion/question posts, photos, or posting links from other websites
I also try to engage in the comment section after posting
You still don’t want to contribute to !trams_trolleys_streetcars@lemmy.blahaj.zone? That community already has 717 subs and 888 active users per month?
I prefer to have my own community, I already have my own vision/preference on what I want the community would be like
I’ve said this before:
I wanted something like Skyscrapercity forum but on Lemmy, or something similar to r/transit.
(As a context, in Skyscrapercity is a discussion forum about infrastructures in the world, underrated website)
Public transports are not limited to trams, trolleys, and street cars. It also includes trains, high-speed rail buses, etc. And my vision for this community is that I want the community to be discussion-oriented. For example, the accessibility of a public transport, the obstacles of building one, the ticket price, the effect it has on the city, integrations between modes, etc. Take a look at https://reddit.com/r/transit for example.
To be clear, I’m not saying that !trams_trolleys_streetcars@lemmy.blahaj.zone is a bad community, it just has difference purpose, as far as I can understand. I’ll probably try to crosspost some of the post there.
You do you, but from experience it might be tiring to keep a community active as a single person. There have been several examples of people in the past setting up a community, trying to keep it alive for a few weeks, and then giving up because they never got traction. Shouting into the void has a real effect: https://slrpnk.net/post/8982899
I want the community to be discussion-oriented. For example, the accessibility of a public transport, the obstacles of building one, the ticket price, the effect it has on the city, integrations between modes, etc.
Then there’s probably an overlap with the “fuck cars” community
- !fuckcars@lemmy.world - 5.2k monthly active users
- !fuckcars@lemmy.ca - 1.1k mau
- !fuckcars@lemmy.ml - 1.3k mau
You might want to promote your community there, but be ready for them to invite you to join their communities rather than them joining yours.
Anyway, good luck, we’ll probably see each other around here in the coming weeks!
I have high hopes for !lemmy_top_shelf@lemmy.world
I think bringing attention to the posters people enjoy is a nice pat on the back to those who make our time spent scrolling worthwhile. Its also a nice punt for the communities the nominees post in.
That’s a nice idea, subscribed!
I voted, and not just for myself! 😅
Oh, I missed that one completely, nice initiative !
First of all, thank you so much Blaze for your relentless dedication to the Lemmy project. I continue to be impressed and grateful, both. ❤️
TBH, I’m also a combo of pissed-off and disappointed by how relatively few Redditors put their “fuck spez” energy in to trying to help Lemmy grow, instead seeming to expect it to be a ready-made substitute for Reddit, prone to tantrums / bitchiness when they encountered minor difficulties. And I’m also disappointed by the actual Lemmings dedicated enough to stay, yet still seem completely content to sit on their arses, not contribute much, and take casual pot-shots at stuff that wasn’t ‘up to standard.’ Take a recent post of mine, for example: (yes it’s my pity-party, and I’ll cry if I want to, lol)
As the founder of the community and main content creator, I must say the downvotes hurt on that one! I was also getting accused of going off-topic (I wasn’t) and just ‘pushing a button to create the content’ (it was more like the reverse).
So in some ways I’ve created a situation in which my users (kinda joking here, kinda not) are bloodsucking parasites who don’t care about my efforts if and only unless they happen to fancy it. Really, that’s perfectly fine with me up until they swarmed on the downvote button.
But whadya gonna do, right? I can’t just assume peoples’ reactions, and I’m not here to tell others what to do. So in the end, I wound up sulking for a week, then getting back to content creation, and I feel like that’s pretty reasonable in the end. Win-win, so to speak. I guess. Maybe…?
The real problem of course is that I don’t know how much longer I’m going to be around (significant health issues, and now just living in the USA during the coming administration), and I’d very much like to get our sublemmy running better with user-generated content before I check out.
Hroom, hroom, hroom, as Treebeard might say…
Yes, I saw that post, the reception was quite hostile
my users
Could also be people coming from All, so not members of your community
Could also be people coming from All, so not members of your community
Yup, and on the flipside, I suspect this is also a ‘fortunate zone of discovery’ that we can enjoy these days across Lemmy.
For example, on Reddit, there’s barely a chance your sub will be randomly seen on ALL unless it’s fairly big and well-established. Which is why I tend to urge people to make the community they want to succeed right now and here on Lemmy. Don’t complain; do it!
Because in future, that opportunity may no longer be there to catch so many ALL viewers, assuming I’m right in that.
It sure would be nice to have a different upvote/downvote culture. Not sure how to foster that.
Upvote for helpful, funny, otherwise valuable contribution.
Downvote for incivility, spam, off-topic, incorrect.
Note I never said agree or disagree. I upvote a lot of things I disagree with that add to the conversation. Although I also admit I stay far, far away from any political or serious discussion. I think what I am proposing is literally just original Reddiquette (it still is that, it is just that a lot of people do not follow it).
I do not think I can add anything to the upvote/downvote conversation for your specific post that the users have not already said on it. But I do appreciate you clearly marking off AI-generated content as such, and you putting effort into the community.
It sure would be nice to have a different upvote/downvote culture. Not sure how to foster that.
Upvote for helpful, funny, otherwise valuable contribution.
Downvote for incivility, spam, off-topic, incorrect.
This will probably sound hilariously ironic, but maybe an agreed-upon AI model?
Nothing’s going to be perfect, and any weakness can be counter-exploited by other AI, but maybe just maybe it could be a start?
I upvote a lot of things I disagree with that add to the conversation.
Respect, and fist-bump. You seem a bit rarish with that. ^^
I do appreciate you clearly marking off AI-generated content as such, and you putting effort into the community.
Thank you! I’ve been very careful to do it only 3x so far (and every time marking it explicitly) across ~400 posts, which is why I was taken aback by the hostile reaction. Also, whether one likes it or not, AI is here to stay, and my experience with ChatGPT was amazingly positive and helpful. So let’s not shoot the messenger too much, okay?
Oh, and also-- IMO Lemmy badly, BADLY needs a tool like RES (Reddit Enhancement Suite) which allows one to make running notes on other users, short of completely blocking them or whatever. I mean, we may not have cumulative karma across Lemmy, but there’s gotta be some way to create a ‘kind-space’ for ourselves, no?
It’s impossible to recognise AI generated content already. If you know what you are doing when prompting. Just by the way. If you filter out AI you just filter out bad prompters
I’ll be honest, not sure why I specifically am being replied to with this. I don’t think I talked about how easy or hard it is to recognize AI content in the comment, or about whether it should be filtered out or not.
I do think you correctly assumed that I am very much not a fan of AI content when someone is trying to pass it as their own effort (I am guessing expressing appreciation for the user marking AI-generated content as such tipped you off?).
I tend to respond just because I want to talk about something sometimes because some comment reminded me of something and then try to loosely attach it to it. I guesssd it’s not the best habit
Someone told me I speak like I was talking to myself once
No worries! Discussions of AI feel like too serious a topic, too hot-button for me to feel great discussing online so I got wary. Thank you for clarifying
Lemmy was interesting in the first months but then the fundamentals won and it just looks like worse Reddit. Techies got their orange site, hobbyists never left Reddit, what we have here is anarchists mostly and politics which sucks. All servers feel too political because it was founded on politics. It was founded by commies and that probably will forever reflect in taste of its dramas and annoyances. It has monotonous flavour without this kind of spice of neurodivergency that produces very interesting content. It was there in first months but then those people just went away who knows where.
Also Reddit on its own as a social formula is kinda shit, it got big more against the chances than because it is somehow inherently good imo
I have managed to actively avoid politics during my time here, although on most servers it does require ignoring Local and always ignoring All—far too many communities to block. ani.social has a very safe Local to check for avoiding politics, it’s just anime and manga.
Because it’s not just explicitly political communities that are chock-full of politics, they are also in meme communities. Someone posts some depressing “relatable” meme and the comments will have people saying “yeah I hate [politician they believe caused the depressing thing in the meme]” or something like that. Whether they have a point or not, and even when I outright agree wholeheartedly it is exhausting. Certain communities post news about their specific topic which sometimes intersects with politics and so that attracts political comments too.
But I can say with the active political avoidance tactic I do pretty good. I will check out new communities via !newcommunities@lemmy.world and sometimes check an instance’s community list and browse random posts on a community that mildly interested me, that is how I still get content discovery.
Also, the problem is the number of users. Neurodivergence is, as far as I know, not the statistical majority. Finding 1 neurodivergent in 100 people is a lot easier than 1 neurodivergent people in 3. I’m neurodivergent, I also stick to the things I’m interested in here. So I am probably a lot harder to find unless you share my interests.
If it helps to share my perspective: I almost left the Fediverse entirely after Kbin.social fell apart and my only options were to either move to Lemmy, return to Reddit, or go literally nowhere (online I mean, so I would e.g. read books and play games irl, basically touch grass, but avoid social media entirely - it’s not nearly as difficult as people say, I’ve done it a good fraction of my life actually, bc I know I have an addictive personality and especially a corporate run one would feed into that).
So I decided to give Lemmy a try, despite knowing it was run by tankies. And while I suck at posting content that people enjoy, I tried in my own way to make people feel more welcomed by commenting on existing posts, to make them more lively.
Though when I commented in ChapoTrapHouse@hexbear.net that at least Biden had lowered gasoline prices, and while that was not everything it also was not nothing, and did help the poorest people who need that, I got replies for WEEKS and WEEKS afterwards. And then again for a similar comment made in lemmygrad.ml (my instances apparently at the time had defederated from neither). It was very toxic, and I don’t need that shit in my life. Literally nothing - as in no social media - would have been preferable.
But then I noticed that nearly all of the toxicity that I saw at the time was coming from the big 3 tankie instances. Since leaning that, my experiences on the Fediverse have greatly improved!
Note this has nothing to do with “politics” and everything to do with CONSENT to receive their bullshit, alternative-fact takes shoved down my throat (continuing for WEEKS and WEEKS at a time - who does that!? outside of those instances I mean). And to be fair, if that’s how they want to be then okay then, you do you, except: it would have been nice to have been warned?
A LARGE part of what is turning people away from the Fediverse is its toxicity. And the lack of features such as proper labeling of communities isn’t helping any. The desktop web UI shows the sidebar, which would have explained to me that ChapoTrapHouse is all about dunking onto liberals - OOOOHHHH, so maybe I don’t want to make a comment there that isn’t 100% trashing Biden? Good to know, thanks! - but the mobile web UI does not do that, e.g. for posts found via All, and neither does a good many apps such as Voyager.
It’s not ready for a mainstream audience yet, technologically speaking. Hence most hobbiests remain on Reddit, or else literally eschew social media altogether. That’s better than the alternative - apparently - i.e. coming here and getting “dunked on”, like the above commentor talking about being so heavily downvoted. We are not very welcoming here, hence people don’t want to come here. I know that 100% of the people I’ve recommended to try it have not liked it. It’s going to take some work to clean ourselves up if we want hobbiests to feel like Lemmy is worthwhile for them. (And frankly I expect it will never happen, but I am putting my hopes into PieFed, or Sublinks if it revives, bc PieFed already has features that make it welcoming, like showing the sidebar text below every single post - mind you its Notifications feature is barely functional so it is not ready for a mainstream audience either, but the fact that such welcoming features are already present is heartwarming! ❤️💕:-)
Oof, I take it you’re pretty disenchanted upon all this shizzle…?
Maybe, I don’t usually have high hopes for things like this so I am not terribly sad or disappointed. I try to focus more on real life nowadays as I think internet is doomed and we are getting more stupid every year somehow. Or maybe I am just getting older. It’s not like I am going back to Reddit seriously in any way. I am trying to find some cozy corner and respite from society mayhem
For the record, I don’t think anything you said is wrong. Assuming you’re a generation younger than me (I’m Gen X), I’m kinda furious for my mine (and Boomers) generation screwing your gen like we’ve done. It’s godamn shameful.
Also, just the basic mechanisms of merciless capitalism… relentlessly putting short-term profit above all other concerns, screwing the younger gens like yours and others.
Haha, everyone thinks I’m weird when I say this, but I’ve always felt that our original state (tribalism) was much smarter, on the whole.
I can’t relate to whatever you said here. I am pretty well off actually, don’t even need to work if I don’t want to. But I sympathise with whatever finance strifes ppl face nowadays. My boomers worked for my future really hard, can’t say I feel fucked over by my parents. On the contrary. They were great people
At this point almost daily I think to myself “what a stupid time to be alive” and the frequency only increases. From bizzare news to unbelievable slop we are fed that everyone seems to consume gladly and readily jumps to defend the multibillion dollar corporations that release it.
All I could ever want is to bring the spirit of moon landing era back. The ambition, the incredible humanity, nothing impossible. This is what powered my youth even though I was born 30 years later in another country. It sort of came delayed here with the arrival of first McDonald’s in early 90s.
It was incredible to be part of this energy, of this boundless optimism and chin pointed high up looking at the horizon of opportunity after decades of communism.
As internet was born and took hold people were awed by it, they looked at technology and it sparked their dreams. Now when you speak about technology people look suspicious at you, they think you are shady, they lost hope.
Without hope humanity has no future, we need hope, grand aspirations, ambition. The spark of fight against black void of the cosmos as it day by day tries to reclaim natural equilibrium. We aren’t made to lie down and give up.
We are made of stardust, we have been created from the stars. It’s about time to shine like we can.
Great comment! And just goes to show what happens when I assume too much. XD
That said, I might quibble a bit, given the time. For whatever reason, I’m super-depressed today just thinking about the recent election and how very much things are going to get worse for most people in the States in a mere month + change…
I actually super don’t.
You look different from me therefore you BAD and EVIL. You acceptable target for hurting because my group said so. Even though you never hurt me.
I’ve never suffered from racism, misogyny, or queer bashing. I am very very lucky especially given I am a queer woman of color. I know just how bad other people have it. We can at least partially thank tribalism for those peoples’ suffering.
You look different from me therefore you BAD and EVIL. You acceptable target for hurting because my group said so. Even though you never hurt me.
No offense, but I’ve always thought that’s a terribly limited way of looking at tribalism, particularly as seen through the lens of civilisation. Yes, I don’t argue against that take, but tribalism from a different POV generally means people accepting (and needing) everyone in their tribe in order best survive. It also means a much closer relationship with the local land, flora and fauna, doesn’t included huge financial and religious institutions that routinely make most peoples’ lives miserable, and is a state of being that can pretty much survive endlessly. Compared for example to our modern, high-tech civ which is pretty much destroying itself before our eyes, with disastrous impending results for most living species left on earth. Yes, we live longer due to modern medicine and such, but it also seems to me that we’re likely more worried, stressed, and plain unhappier than when living in our natural state, on the whole.
So yeah, every human state of being has its cons, but tribalism on the whole seemed to work best, arguably existing for millions of years before the total clusterfluff we have now.
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Most people, it would seem, are children. Or at least act like it, unable (or unwilling) to see past the nose on their own face.
Something like half of my posts have more downvotes than upvotes, and I have earned a distinction of having some of the most heavily-downvoted posts in some communities histories (oops, that’s no longer true, um… yay?). Then I’ll frequently have the highest-upvoted comment (or even more often 2nd or maybe 3rd, among very large posts even) within very many posts. Go figure. Either way I’m just being me, seeing what I see and liking what I like, and sharing it occasionally if I have an inkling of a thought that others might enjoy it (often I’m wrong:-).
So people are fickle, especially en mass. I can’t say to ignore them bc you do as you please, but I can say do your art for YOU. People a decade from now may enjoy it, but that too will be irrelevant, if you are finding fulfillment in the doing.:-)
Happy to help !AskUSA@discuss.online grow
Thank you @OpenStars@discuss.online @m_f@midwest.social @admiralpatrick@lemmy.world and @Anticorp@lemmy.world for volunteering to mod it!
You are very welcome, and thank you for helping it grow!:-)
My niche little !FloatingIsFun@fedia.io is doing OK. We are no longer the largest magazine on Mbin, recently surpassed by !Hydrogen@fedia.io and !Greece@fedia.io . I’m starting to feel a little burnout and I might start posting there less and in other communities more. I did recently did some sidebar trickery to add images that only appear in Lemmy and Piefed, to compensate for not having a proper banner on those platforms.
!Resist@fedia.io isn’t my community, but it’s grown fast over the past month. @Nougat@fedia.io is doing a great job collecting information that will be important to protesters in the coming years.
Trying to keep !pokemon@lemm.ee and !dragonball@ani.social active as well
Funny, I’d have thought both would be hugely popular no matter where.
Football is the world sport, !football@lemmy.world is very quiet
From what I’ve seen, most sports subs here don’t do well here a 'tall. I imagine it’s likely because there’s already such a landslide of sports news, content and discussion venues at other places.
So really, what can a sports sub offer here that isn’t available elsewhere? That said, I appreciate how a few mods & die-hards try to keep the flame alive on Lemmy.
Nice start for !lotrmemes@lemmy.dbzer0.com
!football@lemmy.world is voting for a potential move to another instance. I hope it will, still posting there in the meantime
I’m seeing some discussions about random communities moving off of .world. Is there any reason for it?
Probably the latest announce on !lemmyworld@lemmy.world
That just reminded a few people that we can probably decentralize a bit more
Same old on !movies@lemm.ee and !showsandmovies@lemm.ee
The 2024 best of threads have some success
