- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
- cross-posted to:
- politics@lemmy.world
Summary
Donald Trump plans to discuss potentially ending childhood vaccination programs with Robert F. Kennedy Jr., his nominee for Health and Human Services.
Trump expressed openness to revisiting vaccine policies, citing concerns about autism rates, despite scientific consensus debunking links between vaccines and autism.
Critics warn reducing vaccinations could lead to outbreaks of preventable diseases like measles.
Kennedy, known for questioning vaccine safety, would oversee the CDC if confirmed.
Public health experts remain concerned about the implications.
You must log in or # to comment.
Compulsory quarantine for people coming from the US into EU is gonna happen very fast
Many nearly extinct diseases are already planning their great comeback tour in the US.
Wonder what will happen when the rest of the world denies entry to Americans for health reasons.
So RFKs gonna say “vaccinations bad”, and Trumps gonna be like “thanks for letting me know mate”, then cancel vaccinations…. And then the shit really will hit the fan.
The fool gets more ignorant by the day sheesh
So, what do we DO? Quick vacations abroad to get vaccines and prevent our kids from dying? Or just accept life as long as possible before the 2027 polio outbreak causes a lovely descent into chaos?
Much like women seeking health care across state lines, it may be required to travel to another state for vaccinations, and depending on supply and cost, perhaps traveling to another country would be practical.
As for outbreaks, either wear a mask and avoid crowds, or have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.
… have a passport and find a country not embracing insanity.
I can’t imagine any country is super excited for American refugees
Wow, the measles are going to absolutely ruin America, and then spread to the world. One of my family members was ‘immune’ to the vaccine for it, and a doctor took my aunt aside and told her that basically any large crowd was a danger to my cousin. IE. “Go to the fair and there’s a chance he catches it.” Luckily he was able to finally reach the % required that from the vaccine but I think he was 16 before that happened.
So many children are going to die. I wonder if people who didn’t vote in the US are starting to realise what they’ve done.
and then spread to the world
But the rest of the world still has the vaccine programs. Very quickly Americans will require proof of vaccination before visiting other countries. While there might be an uptick in cases outside of the US, it will be nothing compared to within.
We’re already having a problem with it in Canada, so I’m pretty damn nervous. I have family members who really rely on herd immunity.
Ya, I’m in Canada also. And unfortunately I know more than a couple of people who legit believe vaccines are a scam. But you can find idiots everywhere. I’m honestly not too worried about it here.
The issue is, especially for measles, herd immunity. There are some major problems with measles in particular, such as:
Measles is so contagious that one infected person can spread the respiratory virus to 90% of people in the same room—and it can live in the air for two hours. Often, an infected person doesn’t even know they have measles for several weeks.
and
Early symptoms include a fever, cough, runny nose, and red eyes, all of which could be overlooked as part of a common cold. A skin rash doesn’t typically appear until three to five days after the first symptoms appear. Someone with measles is contagious four days before the rash begins and four days after. There is no cure for measles, but if you’ve received the measles vaccine or are immune from a previous infection, consider yourself protected.
Another major problem is…:
Depending on the disease, herd immunity may begin to show beneficial effects when just 40% of the population is vaccinated. But for particularly contagious diseases, that threshold is far higher, exceeding 80%. The vaccination rate should be about 96% to achieve herd immunity for measles.
So we’re going to have immune compromised people getting and then spreading measels. It hits children the hardest, and we’re going to start seeing absolutely heart-breaking headlines about children dying to a completely preventable illness.
I guess Trump wants to eradicate the American population? How does this make them money?
A new period of prohibition begins. How do I buy vaccines illegally?
Likely Elon Musk and some other people are covert eugenicists. A lot of eugenicists work with Lysenko-style “genetics”, and think generations surviving deadly diseases will bring forward a smarter and stronger humanity,
Well, if America is no longer a superpower, then Putin and all his oligarchs buddies are planning on sweeping up the spoils of its ruin for themselves.
99 dead kids in the ground,
99 dead kids
Remove a vaccine, no longer to be found
999999999 dead kids in the ground
Yes it must be the vaccines that are causing autism rates! Ignore the studies and decades of evidence that show they don’t, because they definitely do!
It’s not all the micro plastic pollution, or car pollution, or chemicals in our water, or hormones in our food, no it’s definitely the vaccines!
- This message is brought to you by Karen and Cletus
Even if there was anything real about the claim that vaccinations increased autism rates, using that as a justification to stop vaccinations would still be a crazy stance. Autism is not a deadly disease, but many of the things we vaccinate against are.
Or people could have been autistic all along, and just not diagnosed?
I came here to say this. We’re just getting a lot better at recognizing it earlier to try to jump on getting the kiddos into therapy to limit the impact on their life as adults.
My dad was born in the 30s, and was just as autistic as me. His mother (born 1910) died when I was little, but I remember her being eccentric, and my mother called her “difficult”. They both lived perfectly normal lives, they were just very different from the others around them. I’m autistic and so is my nephew; that’s four generations, spanning a century.
We have always been here.
We have always been here.
Not at all. We have altered the environment faster and more drastically in the last 150 years and have definitely caused all kinds of issues.
I mean, go off with your conspiracy theory that’s not supported by your link, I guess.
What conspiracy theory? Coal fired power plants, gas emissions, and microplastics have demonstrably altered the planet and has affected the health of every single person alive. In fact, it’s estimated that lead in gasoline might have directly and instruction killed more people than any other single source in history.
I ask again, what conspiracy theory?
autism is genetic.
It, like ADHD, has a strong genetic component, but it’s not a 1:1 correlation.
Epigenetics likely play a massive role also. Which might be the genetic correlation we’re seeing. Epigenetic influences have been shown to last multiple generations from the original trigger (specifically with the effects of trauma).
In the case of autism and ADHD, the epigenetic triggers are likely environmental, such as microplastics, over usage of antibiotics, and various toxic chemicals we’re exposed to daily.
My own personal theory is that the current rates of autism and ADHD might be affected (but not solely caused by) the use of lead in gasoline 50+ years ago. Lead exposure has lifelong implications and absolutely affects embryos as they’re developing. But that’s just a personal theory.
Edit: Holy hell! This popped up on my Google News Feed only hours after making this comment.
Pro-life crowd really trying to murder as many children as they can. That’s crazy. Good luck America.
They are not “pro-life”, they are “pro-forced-birth”.
Enjoy your wiggly kids Republicans
If vaccine requirements go away, this is bad
If vaccines become illegal or prohibitively expensive, this is a disaster
Holy shit, is this for real?
Why the fuck are people still surprised?
It’s been anticipated throughout the campaign, but kind of got overshadowed by all the other horrible stuff about Trump. RFK Jr. is the biggest anti-vaxxer in the world. Trump ran with him openly to get his cult on his side. This is the obvious result.
It seems like every horrible thing about Trump never gets any attention because of the other horrible things about Trump.
Anybody with half a brain can see the collapse of the U.S. coming from a mile away based on what’s happening right now. Our institutions are at an all-time low in trust, all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.
all bcz of this orange dickhead, and Russian/Chinese disinformation campaigns.
I mean yeah. But also because Americans are profoundly stupid. No excuses. As a whole, we’re stupid as fuck.
Our schools have been under attack by the usual shitheads ever since we won to get them integrated.
Smart comfortable people don’t obey. Uneducated, poor people with two jobs and three kids don’t have any energy left over to crack a book and be disruptive.
So you’re saying we should blame the rich and oligarchs. Agreed.
Politicians do not benefit from an educated populace.
Decades of republicans cutting education and lying will do that.
You mean that?
And I swear you guys are going to take us down with you (as a Canadian). The Trump “jokes” about annexing Canada are really starting to get to me.
So much for being good trading partners and friendly neighbours I guess
Edit: this isn’t really directed at you in particular, it’s just that as Canadians we didn’t even get a say in this but somehow you voted overwhelmingly for him again and now he’s threatening to invade us before he even takes office. I’m fucking tired man (and a little drunk)
Tell me about it. I can feel the rumblings of something awful coming for Canada. All because if this bullshit down south. Our rights are being threatened because of reactionary politics. Half the people I work with can’t seperate Canadian politics from American. They think it’s all the same.
Drives me up the wall.
We did not vote overwhelmingly for him. He barely won.
Fair, but he did win the popular vote which I really wasn’t expecting. I realise very little US Lemmy users are happy about it either, but the Canada rhetoric Trump is spouting is still freaking me out.
he did win the popular vote
Frankly I also don’t believe that for half a second either. We had over a full year’s worth of “I am going to cheat in this election.” ‘He’s going to cheat and we’re gonna help him!’ “Mike Johnson and I, we have a nice secret surprise, it’s a secret, can’t tell you anything, but it’s going to guarantee I win the election.” ‘Hi, my name is Mike Johnson and I intend to help Trump cheat the election.’ “If Kamala wins the election is rigged no matter what happens. We’ve rigged it in our favor so obviously if we lose the Democrats have rigged the election.”
And then, lo and behold, he wins, by an ass-hair percentage of a degree in exactly the states he needed to in order to take the presidency.
Unless I’m the one counting those ballots by hand I don’t believe a fucking word of it. All trust in all branches of government has evaporated. But what can we do now.
If it makes you feel better most people didn’t bother to vote and a lot of people didn’t know who Harris was. The left was also protesting Biden’s support of Isreal. Only a couple states get to determine the election results by a few thousand votes.
Those aren’t great reasons but at least you know most people don’t support him. All of the northeast completely went for Harris and people are freaked out that he’s going to put them in concentration camps. Hope Canada can keep on friendly terms with like minded states who desperately need it.
Also Canada should consider getting nukes for defense. He is hostile to states that voted against him and just sees Canada as more liberals. I can easily see situations where he insists Canada set immigration or LGBT rights how he wants under threat of economic sanctions. Then there would always be the threat that he could invade or disrespect your borders at any time.
i swear if he really tries to annex us i would be defending our borders. But do you know what bothers me more? the Canadians who would defect and help the US annex us.
We elected TFG… twice. Humanity is doomed
What’s this “we?” I take zero responsibility for the election of that idiot. I tried as hard as I could to get everyone I know to not vote for him.
Eh. It’s “we” whether you like it or not, unfortunately.
Do we really differentiate between the good and bad Germans in Nazi Germany? Not really. History paints with broad strokes. In the future we’re all going to look like the bad guys, whether we fought back or not. It’s a shameful time to be an American.
What? There are quite a few Germans who rebelled against against the Nazis and are recognized for it.
And people think that most Germans rebelled? You are missing the point.
Nobody said “most Germans”. They said “all”, which is not only untrue, it’s a malignment of those who did resist and serves to discourage future resistance, which is entirely unhelpful. If that’s truely where the US is headed, the last thing people need to hear is, “Everyone will think you’re a piece of shit no matter what you do.”
Thinking in absolutes is a childish thing to begin with, it has nothing to do with maligning the people who resisted.
Of course there will be varying accounts for those involved, but as a whole, Americans shoulder the responsibility of their country just the same as Germans shouldered theirs. I wouldnt hold it against someone who felt involved or responsible, and deciding at some point to rebel.
But that doesnt mean they still weren’t part of something awful for some period of time. Just like Americans are part of something awful right now, and for quite a long time.
TFG
That Fucking Goon?
“The Former Guy”, refers to Trump.
It’s interesting to see how much he will fuck up the country. I mean, terrifying, of course, but interesting too.
