• bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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    2 days ago

    How the fuck can a population that you’re killing and stealing the land from start a SURPRISE war?

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      2 days ago

      I take it you have 0 knowledge of the Six Day or Yom Kippur wars? Which is how the borders in the headlines moved. I mean, heck, a lot of recent maps of Israel show in which war the territory was taken.

      I kinda guessed folks were ignorant of the history but come on, this is pretty basic stuff.

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        2 days ago

        The existence of Israel as a settler-colonial entity nullifies any argument that any resistance in the area can be a “surprise”.

        It shouldn’t exist. It is all stolen land that they are continuing to steal.

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          23 hours ago

          It shouldn’t exist. It is all stolen land that they are continuing to steal.

          You’re right, we should give the whole area back to the Romans.

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          23 hours ago

          Initially they only had land that they legally bought. When they declared themself as a state, the surrounding countries declared war on them, and they turned the tide in this (initially defensive) war and actually gained territory.

          Not defending what they’re doing today, but history shouldn’t be twisted.

          • antib1rchturd@lemmy.cafe
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            10 hours ago

            Legally bought from the brits. If somebody takes your house at gunpoint and sell it to me, it’s still not mine.

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              Not only from the Brits but also from landlords down there. The issue: The landlords weren’t the ones who lived there (mostly nomadic people lived there who didn’t own any land but had been using the land for generations).

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          2 days ago

          I mean, Israel was taken from the Jews way back when so by your logic, aren’t they just taking back their land and thus, apparently according to you, allowed to do whatever?