It wasn’t just gay bars. There was a specific effort by the government of the DDR to combat homophobia. Also, trans surgeries and hormones were fully funded by the state. You can read more about it here.
Yeah, in queer liberation zines back in the late 80s and early 90s, there were a fair amount of trans East Germans who were worried about the unification of Germany and what it would mean for their transition. I don’t have the sources on hand, but they were quite sobering.
I would argue that Western progress in regards to LGBT rights is less related to liberal ideology, and more so a temporary byproduct of the prosperity that was gained through exploitation of the global south. We can see this progress deteriorating in real time as this prosperity is starting to subside.
Edit: Liberalism, capitalism as a whole, are fundamentally based on competition and unequal distribution of wealth. Competition means there will always have to be both winners and losers, anyone can make it, but not everyone can make it. Capitalism means that someone will go empty. And in a society comprised of many different groups of people, as soon as there’s not enough for everyone, it will be the weakest groups, the minorities, who will be the first to get kicked off of the lifeboats.
idk, considering that families disowning kids is a massive problem in terms of queer well being, it seems to me that a right to housing is a pretty important thing and the socialist states are way more consistent than liberal states on that one.
Name one communist country that isn’t homophobic and transphobic.
Cuba has the most progressive family code in the world
The DDR had state-run gay bars when West Germany was still locking up gay people under anti-homosexuality laws passed by the Nazis
Can you give me a source to read on Cuba’s family code and what makes it the most progressive family code in the world?
Gay bars are a reallyy low bar for progressiveness.
Here is a summary of its contents. It was ratified by popular referendum by a wide margin, with 2/3 of all votes in favor.
And yet it was still enough to put DDR ahead of West “Let’s have former Nazi judges sentence gay people under laws passed by the Nazis” Germany.
It wasn’t just gay bars. There was a specific effort by the government of the DDR to combat homophobia. Also, trans surgeries and hormones were fully funded by the state. You can read more about it here.
Here are some sources on Cuba for your perusal:
Damn, I never knew all that about the DDR. Based
Yeah, in queer liberation zines back in the late 80s and early 90s, there were a fair amount of trans East Germans who were worried about the unification of Germany and what it would mean for their transition. I don’t have the sources on hand, but they were quite sobering.
The lib (fascist) won’t respond to this one but thank you!
Props for wanting to learn but damn you should do that first before talking shit
I can name the majority of capitalist countries that are homophobic, far outnumbering any communist ones
here’s a brief history of the increase in queer rights in cuba
Name one country that isn’t homophobic and transphobic.
Exactly, they’re all homophobic and transphobic, but liberal counties so far have a better track record of pushing the envelope.
I would argue that Western progress in regards to LGBT rights is less related to liberal ideology, and more so a temporary byproduct of the prosperity that was gained through exploitation of the global south. We can see this progress deteriorating in real time as this prosperity is starting to subside.
Edit: Liberalism, capitalism as a whole, are fundamentally based on competition and unequal distribution of wealth. Competition means there will always have to be both winners and losers, anyone can make it, but not everyone can make it. Capitalism means that someone will go empty. And in a society comprised of many different groups of people, as soon as there’s not enough for everyone, it will be the weakest groups, the minorities, who will be the first to get kicked off of the lifeboats.
What is your opinion on the massive U.S. Industry around “gay conversion” and “troubled teen” camps?
idk, considering that families disowning kids is a massive problem in terms of queer well being, it seems to me that a right to housing is a pretty important thing and the socialist states are way more consistent than liberal states on that one.
You must be fucking blind if you think thats the truth