• LotrOrc@lemmy.world
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    4 hours ago

    Wait I’m confused why this is him going full MAGA?

    I legitimately don’t want the Republicans in charge of anything unless they drastically change their policies, but this actually seems like a pretty decent pick considering the absolute trash that trump has nominated so far?

    If she is actually trying to break up these companies that’s generally good right? We’ve been wanting to break monopolies for a while.

    If Republicans go so far right that they swing back around to the left I’d be fine with that lol

    I’m not voting because of the letter next to their name, I’m voting because of policies. If someone wants to provide universal health care, protect the environment, break up monopolies, stop price gouging, stop hating gay and trans people for no reason, etc. I will vote for them. And yes I understand that the republican party as it is is the least likely group of people to ever do that. But the democrats didn’t do it either they just pay it lip service when they want votes.

    Vote for actual policies you want, not because someone pretends they’re a D or an R.

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      If Republicans go so far right that they swing back around to the left I’d be fine with that lol

      Hitler’s regime launching the first anti-smoking propaganda campaign in history doesn’t mean they were going “so far right that they swing back around to the left.”

      Please stop this liberal “horseshoe” bullshit.

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      2 hours ago

      Everybody is freaking out at the proton guy because he doesn’t think zuckerberg, musk and bezos are big tech

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      7 hours ago

      You need to read Andy’s replies after people questioned him on that initial post. I linked to an archived thread in my OP, or you can check the Proton Mail subreddit.

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        6 hours ago

        I read his replies; what about them are “full MAGA”?

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          5 hours ago

          I’m assuming you’re arguing in bad faith, or you missed his uniformly glowing praise of Republicans and how they defend “the little guy” as opposed to the corrupt dems.

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            4 hours ago

            This is the comment which you linked to, copied and pasted:

            Here is our official response, also available on the Mastodon post in the screenshot: Corporate capture of Dems is real. In 2022, we campaigned extensively in the US for anti-trust legislation. Two bills were ready, with bipartisan support. Chuck Schumer (who coincidently has two daughters working as big tech lobbyists) refused to bring the bills for a vote. At a 2024 event covering antitrust remedies, out of all the invited senators, just a single one showed up - JD Vance. By working on the front lines of many policy issues, we have seen the shift between Dems and Republicans over the past decade first hand. Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost. Until corporate Dems are thrown out, the reality is that Republicans remain more likely to tackle Big Tech abuses.

            This doesn’t seem like a glowing commendation to me. It seems he said exactly what he thinks happened, and that only one person showed up. He even brings up the fact that Dems could choose the progressive wing with Bernie, but that they chose to follow the money. That’s not false either.

            I really don’t get how this is full MAGA, unless you’re stating that anything that praises the Republicans is full MAGA.

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              4 hours ago

              unless you’re stating that anything that praises the Republicans is full MAGA

              If you’ll read the thread, this is not the first time he has praised Trump.

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                Just so everyone is clear, this is what you’re framing as “praise”:

                It is not Trump’s fault

                It is tempting to blame all this on Trump, but that is taking the easy way out. All Trump does is put a new face on the existing privacy problem, so now it concerns a segment of the population that previously didn’t care as much. Proton Mail users have always come from both the left and right side of the political spectrum. Today, we are seeing an influx of liberal users, but Proton Mail has also long been popular with the political right, who were truly worried about big government spying, and the Obama administration having access to their communications. Now the tables have turned.

                The same terror the political right has experienced is now being felt in liberal bubbles such as Silicon Valley for the first time. The left is correct to be terrified of a Trump-led NSA snooping on their communications, especially since Silicon Valley giants like Google and Facebook can be forced to spy on users on behalf of Trump’s NSA. However, this precedent was not set by Trump – he hasn’t even taken office yet. The first major incident of a US tech giant being complicit in US government spying actually took place in 2015 under the Obama administration(new window).

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                  3 hours ago

                  Why did you leave out the part about democrats being corrupt and republicans being champions of the little guy?

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                    3 hours ago

                    I quoted it from the thread, which was the source you referenced.

                    Go ahead a share the full quote, then.

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      4 hours ago

      If Republicans go so far right that they swing back around to the left I’d be fine with that lol

      That’s not a thing.