I assumed it was just “hire more LGBTQIA+ prison guards!” so-true

It’s worse than that. What I’ve seen recently because of federation is “(verbal performative) support for disadvantaged people as long as they maintain a successful small business in a disadvantaged area for no less than three years and aren’t anywhere to the left of Bernie Sanders!”

maybe-later-honey 🍷 🍷 maybe-later-kiddo

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    comfy

    I still don’t believe in the existence of people actually calling humans “meatbags”. What level of cringe roleplaying are these translucent nerds into?

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      I see edgy pseudo-intellectual reductionism all the time among some internet people (and some offline people too, unfortunately). It ranges from calling people apes (usually to justify barbaric or coarse behavior under naturalistic fallacies) to numerous pop-nihilistic statements about the offline world being “meatspace” and the people in it being nothing more than “meat computers,” “stochastic parrots,” or whatever other life lessons they picked up from Rick and Morty. debord-tired

      It doesn’t help and it often justifies apathy and neglect toward the suffering of actual living, thinking, feeling people. True cognitohazard, and Hexbear’s had outbreaks of it before.

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        I like calling it “fleshspace” when I’m interacting in person with someone I generally interact with online or over the phone, because I think it sounds funny, but I also like to think about the viscerality of meeting face to face. It’s entirely different being a body than just a voice online, y’know? I could start bleeding or cough or arouse them.

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          Flesh hits differently than “meat” for slang. “Meat” is usually said by smug techbro types that see “CYBERSPACE” as some magical realm of digital apotheosis rather than the ever-more-enshittified series of walled gardens it is becoming.

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        I sometimes like to think in the ape terms but in an affirming and encouraging way. Like “hey, we have a polio vaccine, not bad for a buncha apes”. Or “man, that didn’t go well, but you know, we’re all just apes trying our best, and we’ll do better tomorrow.”

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          The whole point of the stochastic parrot idea is that AI does not have structures for the abstract composition of novel ideas. It’s statistical pattern recognition all the way down.

          I know.

          People referring to humans as stochastic parrots is… really missing the point. It’s more than just denying the existence of free will. It’s an incorrect assertion about the structures of the brain.

          Yeah and it happened here anyway near the start of the chatbot hype wave, presumably to try to make the chatbots seem more “real” by denigrating living people. It was fucked up.