Unlike in Trump’s first term, Democratic voters say 2-to-1 they want party leaders to fight rather than compromise, even at the risk of not getting things done, per the NBC News poll.
You don’t think it’s the other way around? You don’t think it was more her pushing to be their candidate than Biden pushing her? Cuz I don’t believe for a second Biden pushed her into that. That was always her ambition.
He waited way too long for the party to pick someone other than the de facto choice which is the vp. He cost Dems their primary. So no. I think she gave Dems the best shot they had given the position Biden put them in.
That’s ridiculous. Biden dropped out at the end of July. If you expect candidates to run a primary and a presidential campaign in 4 months, in America, you seriously misunderstand how informed the average voter is. People knowing who Kamala is is a big part of why she was the only valid candidate at the time
4 months is more than enough time to run a primary and a presidential campaign. Entire countries do it in 6 weeks. The party didn’t want to do it because the party wanted to put in their chosen candidate.
Entire countries do it in 6 weeks when they know it’s happening well ahead of time and both candidates start campaigning 6 weeks ahead of time. That’s unfortunately not how US elections work.
That’s not how us elections work because that’s how the parties want us elections to work. Maybe more importantly that’s how the US media wants elections to work. It is easily doable though. Once more we all knew the election was coming and the convention hadn’t even happened yet. Easily enough time. Easily. They didn’t want it to happen.
Of course it was her ambition. But he went full senile during the campaign and then sat on it for another month. Then after he withdrew, his campaign advisors continued to fuck with her campaign. I don’t think she would have been the best candidate out of a primary but in that situation she was the best chance for another democratic presidency.
I have a very different read on the situation. I think what you saw with a split between Harris and Biden was the split in the Democratic Party. Harris and the people supporting her very much seemed like the Hillary Clinton wing of the party. They basically ran the same campaign she did. They appealed as hard as they could to conservatives. They cozied up heavily to billionaire Tech donors. They tried to push Progressive Politics As far aside as humanly possible. They were against people like Lena Khan. On the other hand I think the people surrounding Biden if not so much him himself, were the more Progressive wing of the party. A lot of the mechanisms put in by Biden’s agreements with Bernie Sanders were that part of the party that was forced out by Harris.
Edit: Also I would point out there was plenty of time to run a primary. That fiction that there wasn’t enough time is just what the party said so they could put their hand chosen candidate in.
They appealed as hard as they could to conservatives.
You mean with Clinton’s proposals to raise taxes on the rich 6 different ways? Or Harris proposal to raise taxes on corporations beyond what Biden did? I didn’t know that conservatives wanted to aggressively tax the rich. /s
I cannot think of one single policiy of Harris that was “designed to appeal to conservatives”. And since there were NO policy shifts designed to appeal to conservatives, her campaigning with Cheney was a very GOOD thing and not a bad thing at all, because Cheney’s support hilighted to the voters that Traitorapist Trump was a fascist. Nobody was stupid enough to think Cheney was endorsing Harris for any of her policies other than democracy and freedom.
Harris was a terrible candidate, but that was primarily because she didn’t use aggressive rhetoric against Traitorapist Trump. And yes being more progressive and supporting Medicare For All probably would have helped as well.
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She should have never been the candidate. Biden put her in an unwinnable position. The old geezer’s ego cost America it’s democracy.
You don’t think it’s the other way around? You don’t think it was more her pushing to be their candidate than Biden pushing her? Cuz I don’t believe for a second Biden pushed her into that. That was always her ambition.
He waited way too long for the party to pick someone other than the de facto choice which is the vp. He cost Dems their primary. So no. I think she gave Dems the best shot they had given the position Biden put them in.
Way more than enough time for a primary
That’s ridiculous. Biden dropped out at the end of July. If you expect candidates to run a primary and a presidential campaign in 4 months, in America, you seriously misunderstand how informed the average voter is. People knowing who Kamala is is a big part of why she was the only valid candidate at the time
4 months is more than enough time to run a primary and a presidential campaign. Entire countries do it in 6 weeks. The party didn’t want to do it because the party wanted to put in their chosen candidate.
Entire countries do it in 6 weeks when they know it’s happening well ahead of time and both candidates start campaigning 6 weeks ahead of time. That’s unfortunately not how US elections work.
That’s not how us elections work because that’s how the parties want us elections to work. Maybe more importantly that’s how the US media wants elections to work. It is easily doable though. Once more we all knew the election was coming and the convention hadn’t even happened yet. Easily enough time. Easily. They didn’t want it to happen.
Of course it was her ambition. But he went full senile during the campaign and then sat on it for another month. Then after he withdrew, his campaign advisors continued to fuck with her campaign. I don’t think she would have been the best candidate out of a primary but in that situation she was the best chance for another democratic presidency.
By him leaving it so late, there was really no other practical option. That’s 100% on Biden and the milquetoast establishment dems around him.
I have a very different read on the situation. I think what you saw with a split between Harris and Biden was the split in the Democratic Party. Harris and the people supporting her very much seemed like the Hillary Clinton wing of the party. They basically ran the same campaign she did. They appealed as hard as they could to conservatives. They cozied up heavily to billionaire Tech donors. They tried to push Progressive Politics As far aside as humanly possible. They were against people like Lena Khan. On the other hand I think the people surrounding Biden if not so much him himself, were the more Progressive wing of the party. A lot of the mechanisms put in by Biden’s agreements with Bernie Sanders were that part of the party that was forced out by Harris.
Edit: Also I would point out there was plenty of time to run a primary. That fiction that there wasn’t enough time is just what the party said so they could put their hand chosen candidate in.
You mean with Clinton’s proposals to raise taxes on the rich 6 different ways? Or Harris proposal to raise taxes on corporations beyond what Biden did? I didn’t know that conservatives wanted to aggressively tax the rich. /s
I cannot think of one single policiy of Harris that was “designed to appeal to conservatives”. And since there were NO policy shifts designed to appeal to conservatives, her campaigning with Cheney was a very GOOD thing and not a bad thing at all, because Cheney’s support hilighted to the voters that Traitorapist Trump was a fascist. Nobody was stupid enough to think Cheney was endorsing Harris for any of her policies other than democracy and freedom.
Harris was a terrible candidate, but that was primarily because she didn’t use aggressive rhetoric against Traitorapist Trump. And yes being more progressive and supporting Medicare For All probably would have helped as well.
Harris didn’t, at least not alone; 2024 was a party platform problem.