• Novocirab@feddit.org
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    (Disclaimer: I’m not American.)

    Not to argue for vandalism, but with the US government illegally detaining and deporting people for saying things that right wingers don’t like, I don’t think the MAGA crowd retains significant reservations about engaging in vandalism themselves – it’s just that so far they haven’t spotted a target where it would serve their cause to do so, and because, with the federal government in their hands, Republicans have much more effective and ostensibly legal methods at their disposal. (Should Republicans be voted out of power eventually, there will most certainly be vandalism from the right, conceivably even widespread violence against people, but this will probably be the case irrespective of whether Teslas keep exploding due to vandalism or only due to bad engineering.)

    At this point, a perspective might be that it’s no longer about “a political goal”, but about preventing permanent loss of the ability of the people to achieve anything at all through democratic means.

    Still, though: Even with this in mind, it’s utterly true that one should be careful about cheering for any such actions.

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      don’t think the MAGA crowd retains significant reservations about engaging in vandalism themselves

      The MAGA crowd is supposedly the most heavily armed and violent group of fascist thugs in existence and yet somehow they simply haven’t bothered to ever do anything like this.

      …it’s just that so far they haven’t spotted a target where it would serve their cause to do so

      The coal rolling good ol’ boys with an AR-15 in their back window could have started doing burning down EVs a decade ago when Elon was a Liberal darling…but they didn’t. They could start doing it now but they haven’t.

      Should Republicans be voted out of power eventually, there will most certainly be vandalism from the right, conceivably even widespread violence against people…

      I’ve been hearing this same argument for over a decade and yet its never really happened. Again, somehow the most highly armed group of violent fascist thugs in existence hasn’t ever bothered to this en masse. Not even when they weren’t in power, like just 2 years ago when they were all POd at EVs and Immigration.

      Again, and I can’t stress this enough, fuck Trump and his MAGA idiots. I despise them and I’m not defending them. I’m simply trying to force some reality and introspection into this mess.

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        Please let us recall the Capitol attack. It was much, much worse, targeting not cars, but people and democracy itself.

        (As for Elon, it is important to recall that back then, neither he nor any other liberal magnate had free access to the oval office and his own-or-technically-maybe-not-his-own government agency. His status is wholly unprecedented.)