• NotLemming@lemm.ee
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    10 hours ago

    He said they would be the most objectified… I mean, valued state, and so, just like a good woman they should bask in his praise and do whatever he wants. Otherwise they are a nasty whore.

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      8 hours ago

      Ooh… nicely spotted.

      That’s a thing with his spoiled toddler emotional dysfunction that I’ve recognized but never really given a lot of thought to. He self-evidently has some seriously warped ideas regarding sex, but they don’t fit neatly into a toddler worldview, since toddlers are ignorant of sex. So I knew there was some way that he’d essentially adapted sexual desire to that extreme degree of emotional immaturity, but hadn’t sorted out exactly what it is.

      And everything clicked with the idea of objectification. I have no doubt that that’s the link I hadn’t sussed out.

      And it’s undoubtedly been recursive - like he started out objectifying women and thus treating their refusal to have sex with him the same way that another toddler would treat mom’s refusal to buy him a candy bar at the supermarket - but then over time developed a set of more specific ideas to better frame things - like “nasty” as a descriptor of someone who refuses his advances - which then melded back into his broader worldview.

      When I wrote that last one, I had a hard time fitting “nasty” in. He’s obviously using it to represent bad/mean/awful, but the word has a specific spin that I couldn’t quite get a grip on, since it doesn’t seem to quite match up with any of the common usages I was considering.

      And I have zero doubt that you’re right - that inside his own head, it’s playing the same role it would in the phrase “nasty whore.” And for the same reason - from his cripplingly self-absorbed viewpoint, he’s already recited the incantations about how beautiful she is and how cherished she’ll be, so it’s time for her to lie back and submit. And the nasty whore refuses…

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        7 hours ago

        Yeah, I recognised it immediately by his body language and facial expression, tone of voice etc. That creepy coaxing…yuck. It’s actually kinda rare to see in the wild because someone would have to have zero insight to act that way so brazenly.

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          7 hours ago

          Ah… that makes sense.

          Even with my fascination with character analysis and the rich vein of freakishness Trump provides, I generally can’t watch him - he’s just too creepy and unsettling.

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            7 hours ago

            Same. Especially when he does the exaggerated and arrogant sneering ‘voices’. Kaamaalaaa.

            It’s weirdly like how some people talk down to children.