Sunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 days agoChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlexternal-linkmessage-square136fedilinkarrow-up1839arrow-down12cross-posted to: BuyFromEU@europe.pub
arrow-up1837arrow-down1external-linkChief of Dutch Central Bank: US influence on payment systems is concerning, working on alternatives for Visa and Mastercard.nos.nlSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caM to Buy European@feddit.ukEnglish · 2 days agomessage-square136fedilinkcross-posted to: BuyFromEU@europe.pub
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up9arrow-down1·2 days agoPlease let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
minus-squareSunshine (she/her)@lemmy.caOPMlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up17·edit-22 days agoWe need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
minus-squareThomasCrappersGhost@feddit.uklinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up3·1 day agoWe have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up8·2 days agoAndroid is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did. And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
minus-squareangrystego@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up3·24 hours agoLocal alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
minus-squarebiofaust@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·1 day agoWe also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy. But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
minus-squareObi@sopuli.xyzlinkfedilinkarrow-up2·2 days agoIsn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
minus-squareDr. Moose@lemmy.worldlinkfedilinkEnglisharrow-up2·2 days agoNope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
minus-squareRenohren@lemmy.todaylinkfedilinkarrow-up3·edit-21 day agoThat was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
Please let’s think this ALL THE WAY: it is pointless to look for alternatives to the customer facing part if the backend still runs on US software.
We need European alternatives to the 2 American duopolies: Visa and Mastercard / Android and Apple.
We have a few options …Fairphone with EOS is probably the best.
Android is open source so any European company can just fork their flavor the same way Huawei did.
And there are alternatives to visa/mastercard but their local to each country: Cartes Bancaires in France, Girocard in Germany etc.
Local alternatives are not good enough. We need something that works internationally, otherwise it’s not a true alternative.
We also have MobilePay here in Denmark, Swish in Sweden, Bancomat in Italy.
But I am still dubious there is proper sovereignty in the whole stack each one of these run on.
Isn’t CB in France still running through visa/MC?
Nope, they just integrate visa/mastercard for international payments like most other European providers.
That was true, once upon a time. “Carte Bleue” is part of Visa Europe (which has been reintegrated into Visa. Inc in 2015) since 2010.
I’d love to see it.