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    Frist, these looks nothing like the original character. Second, Although Marx, Engels are definitely admirable characters (probably also Ho and Lenin, but I don’t know them well enough), worshiping mass murder like Mao and Starlin is just not cool.

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      No socialist leader was a mass murderer. All of that was Red Scare Western bourgeoisie propaganda to put socialism in a bad light and discourage workers from joining the revolution and taking away the means of production from the Western Bourgeoisie.

      The bourgeoisie are the real mass murderous. May I remind you all the people American presidents have killed? Also, Hitler was a capitalist.

      Besides:

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        So Mao isn’t responsible for the millions of deaths under his leadership in labour camps, executions and famine because he was totalitarian and therefore it isn’t because of socialism? Yet capitalism is responsible for all the deaths from poverty and disease according to your image, does that about sum it up?

        Also no socialist leader was a mass murderer? Not even one? Every socialist leader much just be a perfect human being then. Very compelling.

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          All of that is western propaganda, yes. And not being a mass murder doesn’t make someone a perfect human. What kind of logic is that?

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        Please, go to China, talk to some Chinese. If you like China so much, you need to go visit and learn if it is really that good.

        Countless people died from culture revolution, great leap forward, and the great Chinese famine. Go to China and ask people on the street about them, please.

        If you are too busy to go to China, read about it on Chinese social media, Chinese books:

        But I still recommend you go just go to China if you love it so much. Immerse yourself in the culture and talk to locals, learn about them.

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          Countless people died from culture revolution, great leap forward, and the great Chinese famine. Go to China and ask people on the street about them, please.

          That’s really swell. Countless Native Americans also died during the founding of the United States of America. You should come here and ask them about how it was for them oh wait you can’t 99% of them are dead

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          Have you gone and asked them? Because last time I checked the majority of Chinese love Mao. They also have positive views on socialism and their socialist government.

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            Yes, I spend more than half of my life in China.

            I was taught about culture revolution, the land reform movement, the great leap forward, and the great Chinese famine in Chinese classrooms and by my parents and grandparents who experienced most of them in person.

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                Nope, they are not, neither landlord nor even activist. They are victims, normal people struggling to live their lives. Like millions of others that we see in class.

                They are not even the biggest victim, since I am still here. Like I said, countless people died during these time, including successful scientists, journalists, researchers, writers, musicians, athletes, intellectuals, doctors, politicians, generals, people with extraordinary contributions to the country and its people. These are even taught in Chinese classrooms.

                See: https://www.minguowang.com/character/rw-xh/20556/

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    This obvious propaganda shit is getting old. I came here for stupid funny bullshit, not stupid ignorant delusional bullshit.

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        Ask the people who faced execution just for trying to leave those shithole regimes. Why would they need to build a Berin Wall to keep people from entering West Germany if everything was going well in the east?

        To be clear, my problem is not with communism, and I’m not defending unrestricted capitalism. But this shit isn’t even trying to be funny. Take all the ‘-isms’ elsewhere.

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          They built the wall to keep Western imperialism from taking them over. Freaking USA storms everywhere uninvited when they get the chance. Just see how they went to Vietnam and killed millions. And how they killed other millions squashing every socialist revolution attempt in the Americas. Why did the Chinese build the wall? To keep out the enemy.

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        All that you were taught your entire life was propaganda.

        Dude, I grow up in China…