cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/1418294
Ignore my dumb prodding, im just giving context and trying to make the picture wider, they were being very snarky about those people in the third world.
Would link the comment but that seems rude lol, unless yall ask for it
I fucking love neolibs they are the most vacant people ever I can’t even
should hang this on my wall
this will be in my wedding vows
will have 17 children and name them all after each word from this
edit: aight no more half measures Ill put it in the description but here too https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1732848
I hope it works cause the servers get weird for me when I go into anything over a few days old. also in lemmy.world (because of fucking course it is) so ya’ll hexbears might not be able to reach.
edit 2: Lemmy.world closed the comm temporarily, so thats why the link doesn’t work
Edit 3: a Comrade below pointed out to me some information I didn’t know at the time that pointed to this being more than likely sarcasm. https://lemmygrad.ml/comment/1908043 Thank you for pointing it out!
I checked their history and they were serious about everything else they had said. Regular post history on lemmy world. Seemed to be perfectly serious when saying other perfectly liberal things elsewhere in the thread. It was about tiananmen square.
I’ve also met people in real life who say things like this, its not uncommon. I remember it being the primary source needed in high school during history courses, recent graduates I talked to had similar complaints. It’s not that out there.
Yeah, I looked at their comment history. It drips with sarcasm.
They weren’t being serious in either of these statements. These aren’t alone.
I can see them writing about the bias of sources, and they acknowledge bias in Western sources.
But one of the more obvious clues is this one:—
So they’ve chosen a “source” that will be guaranteed to be written off, just to play with you.
They’ve also said:—
Unless you’re going to write this off as sarcasm, undermining “they were serious about everything else they had said”, you have the contradiction of lack of support for the US but wholesale belief in the CIA. I know cognitive dissonance is everywhere, but there’s too much awareness in their writing for me to read the “factbook” comment as anything other than teasing.
They may well be wrong about other things, but I’d bet that you’re wrong about this.
This is way too common an occurrence for me to think otherwise. And again, all their jokes seemed quite in line for usual liberal nonsense. Even if sarcastic, he was still being anti-china the whole time. Any person can hate the US, many online leftists do, and then peddle the same CIA nonsense to the letter. Any person can acknowledge the bias of western media, but that doesn’t mean much when they still buy into a similar narrative, I assume its lip service until proven otherwise. Many will still reflexively think of it as the only “reputable sources”.
again, I have heard people defend views like this in real life, dig in their heels and assure of the CIA being “bad then, but really good now” and had to use it as the main source in schooling (college at least had less such idiocy).
The internet is riddled with such insane nonsense, I’ve seen people claim in essay long explanation that “fascism is the development stage of communism”, Liberals thinking that the sputnik launch was faked, that one of the islands in hawaii was set on fire by the Chinese (I actually had one turn up in one of the local instas even after seeing it on hexbear), having to suffer in school during a ‘history lesson’ on why the PRC killed Muhhamed Ali, and people who consider themselves “left” expressing the opinion that even though the US is bad, the old socialists must all die, so we have to side with them (This was face-to-face, I never talked to them again).
But, that said, the evidence you have makes it more than likely that it is a joke, and that I am wrong. Its more a testament to how deranged people have gotten, or maybe always were, that this is entirely plausible to be something said unironically all the time in many circles. I’ll put a disclaimer, the last thing I want to do is misinform my comrades. Thank you for taking the time to point this out, I mean that wholeheartedly.
Much love comrade 🫡
You’re welcome. Some of my clues were posted after the “factbook” comment, so they couldn’t have tipped you off at the time. And, hey, I still might be wrong. There’s certainly no shortage of bad takes. Either way, not everyone is willing to reconsider their position, fewer still that will do so publicly; I commend you for that.
:sankara-salute: