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Sept 5 (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin said in a television interview on Tuesday, without citing evidence, that Western powers had installed Volodymyr Zelenskiy, who is of Jewish heritage, as president of Ukraine to cover up the glorification of Nazism.
In justifying its invasion of Ukraine, which it calls a “special military operation,” Russia accuses Kyiv’s leaders of being neo-Nazis pursuing a “genocide” of Russian-speakers - an assertion that Kyiv and Western countries dismiss as a baseless pretext for a war of acquisition.
Putin was answering a question from Russian reporter Pavel Zaubin and his comments were shown on Russian state TV.
Zelenskiy, who has said that some of his grandfather’s brothers were killed in the Holocaust, has repeatedly dismissed as false Russian accusations that he has supported neo-Nazis in Ukraine. (Reporting by Reuters; Editing by Kevin Liffey Editing by Alex Richardson)
TASS source (Russian media) : https://tass.com/politics/1670265
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As a russian I can say that Putin is definitely crazy. He always was crazy a littlw due to his KGB past, you know, some tendency to overestimate impact of special servies and conspiracy. But I guess that the last drop was a covid pandemic when he sitted alone in bunker for a year in a total isolation. He totally out of mind. I do not think that one should seriously look at his speeches. Also, as a native russian speaker I watched a video interview and can proove that the translation is cirrect. He really said it…
I hope you guys can find a way to get a better national government soon.
Thank you. I hope too. But now it is not safe to be being in Russia and trying to get better government… So, for myself I just decided to leave the country. I’m not ready to risk my safety and safety of my family trying to protest against Putin. One can say that I’m a coward, but for me it change nothing: I prefer to be a healthy free coward instead of tortured hero in prison. To be honest, my only hope is that he die soon, there are a lot of rumors about his health problem, some cancer.
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You know what they say about Russian history… “And then it got worse”
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Next in line is whatever treacherous bastard that manages to wrangle power for himself.
The only thing worse than a bastard like Putin is a smart and competent bastard.
But still, I somehow hope Russia manages to find a path toward a competent and stable democracy somehow.
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I left the country after the war. So, for me it changed significantly… But I’m a wrong person to ask how is it now. In my understanding it is bad.
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Zelenskiy was elected in 2019, during Trump’s misrule. We all know who Trump was taking orders from.
I love how absolutely desperate that makes Putin look.
You are clearly mistaken. The CIA actually keeps millions of clones in underground bunkers all over the world, and then tunneled them deep underground in order to smuggle them into Kyiv for the maiden protests.
Ladies, Gentlemen, and Others… Apparently you can, in fact, make this shit up.
What a world.
We’ve been pointing out that Zelenskyy is Jewish since the beginning. You know, for day five-hundred-and-something of the three day special military operation, that’s a pretty good comeback. /S
Right? This gave me such deja vu, I had to double check it wasn’t an accidental repost from back then…
Whatever he’s smoking he’s gotta either share or quit hitting it for a bit
I think he shared with musk no?
Maybe
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Nah, typical of Soviet-era trick of “say one thing, mean another” confusion bullshit.
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Classic doublespeak BS. Sadly not exclusive to the Soviet Union.
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Yes, famously the idea of “say one thing, mean another,” didn’t exist before 1917.
“neo nazi’s pursuing genocide”
Wow, project much Putin?
At this point, anyone who is taking anything Russia says about this conflict seriously is very clearly not operating in good faith.
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Um, sure Vlad, that makes sense.
He is right! Nothing is beyond them! They are monsters! They even put a lunatic on the top of the Russian government in order to destroy Russia! And it is working! Wake up, sheepliks!
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Not justifying it, but the use of the word Nazi seems a lot different in Russia compared to the West. The West is going to use the word Nazi to describe authoritarian governments that engage in genocide. Of the two belligerents in the war, that describes Russia a lot more than Ukraine.
In contrast, I feel like the word Nazi in Russia is used more to describe an existential threat to Russia. Nazis invaded Russia, and Ukraine is a threat on par with Russia.
So the home audience hears this and hears that Putin is attacking Russia’s enemies, and a lot of others are confused as Putin’s Russia seems a lot more fascist and Nazi-like.
Nazi in Russia refers to the forced displacement, prosecution, and rape of ethnic Russians and Communists by the invading Nazi forces throughout the war. The Nazis had a much different view on Western Europeans than they did on Slavs and Jews and Communists, so is this surprising at all?
Whereas the West was treated more or less as though under military occupation (see: France, Norway), the goal of the Nazis during Barbarossa was the extermination of the Slavic peoples.
Russia is the invading force here…
No way is Ukraine anywhere near as threatening as the third reich.
You’re right. But, the use of the word Nazi is going to play differently to Russia than it will to Europe or the USA.
Yes otherwise I agree with your point. The Nazi comparison was quite baffling to most in the West but when viewed from the Russian perspective on history it has a certain warped logic.
Erm. Depends. On the one side Russia doesn’t have the US to send them unending streams of military hardware this time around, on the other I very much doubt Ukraine is going to open a second front to their west.
The greatest threat to the Russian status quo is, indeed, Ukraine’s sanity.
On yet another hand then Putin seems to think we’re masters of 10-D Pachisi.
There were literal swatika wearing Nazis among other far right groups leading the 2014 Euromaiden protests that kicked out the Russian backed president in Ukraine. The leftist groups were anti-protest and also anti-government.
Not everything is about you, Russia. Do they really define WWII by someone attacking them? That’s ignoring a lot.
For context, WWII in Russia is known as The Great Patriotic War.
Granted the USSR took the lion’s share of casualties and Nazi smashing (with Western support) but yeah, they’ve reduced it to *their * war against the Axis forces.
And conveniently forget the USSR was allied with Nazi Germany while they both invaded poland.
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I…
Wut?
What now?
My mind just gets stuck in an endless loop with this dumb gymnastics
So… ad hominem? That’s all you have, Putin?
He didn’t even mention the donated Swedish pickled herring biological weapons.