• d-RLY?@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    Seems more like a lesson learned from all the people the US placed in Gitmo without even a secret trial. And at least China had the argument that they literally did have many spread out terrorist attacks from more radical believers in the Uyghur communities inside China. I think that both the US and China handled shit bad as fuck. But until the US fully shuts down Gitmo and returns it to Cuba, and ends all of our black sites. Then it isn’t exactly something that the US has any real right to talk any shit about just because it is China. We are beyond the level of tyrannical, we are just better at controlling the narrative and have somehow been allowed to just dictate what other nations are “good” and “evil”.

    China is doing more to un-fuck their bad choices, as they have made sure that folks that shouldn’t have been mixed in were able to get jobs and technical/vocational training/school. The US never put any tiny amount of even PR level shit for helping Muslims we grabbed up and tortured while being held without any level of legal protections. There are some folks that might just be kept forever at this point as they are afraid that those people might become actual terrorists after being treated so badly while innocent.

    Does that mean China gets a pass? No. But the US has done far more in the past 40 years to create the very extremists and terrorists that we keep seeing pop-up. We have done more to create suffering on a global scale since the end of the British Empire. We just hide it better and our gaslighting is top notch from media to trade. Just because we have “freedom of speech” doesn’t mean we aren’t tyrannical.

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      1 year ago

      ~80 prisoners wrongfully detained in conjuction with a terrorist attack that killed thousands = the ethnic cleansing of an entire people directly by the state and the imprisonment of teachers

      The lemmygradians huff the good stuff as usual.

      Anyone from hexbear care to add to this?

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      This is such a misguided take that I find it hard to believe it’s not deliberate. Why do certain Americans always have to make everything about themselves?? Stop distracting from the fact that the Uyghurs are being wiped out. Normal people who are being rounded up, arrested and never seen again. It’s on a par with the what the Third Reich were doing to Jewish people in the 1930s.

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          I have no idea what or who those are, so whatever you’re trying to insinuate about me you’re probably wrong. There’s plenty of evidence of what is going on. All states are brutal and oppressive towards at least one group of people.

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        1 year ago

        The Uyghur’s are not being wiped out. There has never in history been a genocide where the population went up. The Uyghur fertility rate is over 3.0, which is still over replacement rate.