The open-source social network gained millions of new users following Twitter’s takeover. While some of its features could improve the quality of public discourse, disadvantaged communities might be excluded.
There was quite a bit of meta-drama on fedi around BIPOC people being told to CW racism. But that’s a far, far cry from “levels of racist abuse unseen on commercial platforms”.
He kinda makes some vague valid criticism, but no real suggestion on how to improve things. And the few things that he does suggest (all black instance) he realized himself are not really a good idea and overall are quite unimaginative of what we could build in the Fediverse together.
And ultimately he seems to fall back to an apologetic stance on Twitter (“not that bad”, “black people can endure that”, “in spite of all the problems”) and a “grass isn’t greener” type of argument based on the fear of losing the network-effect that Twitter offers.
Dunno… I admit that as a white person I cannot fully grasp the “inherent whiteness” of the Fediverse in its full extend, but the argument brought forward in this interview leaves me less than convinced that this is really the main problem. It seems more like he is grasping for arguments for why the “Black Twitter” he got used to and is apologetic about needs to somehow survive the Musk takeover.
Yes, but improve how? The interview tells us more about where the interviewee is on the spectrum of the 7 stages of grief in regards to Twitter than it does about possible ways to make the Fediverse more welcoming for BIPOCs. That it is too “white” can only be fixed by more BIPOCs joining, so that circular logic brings us nowhere.
@poVoq@rysiek following the drama - it was the combination of newcomers to federation not understanding “make your own server with moderation that suits your community” as anything but “we can’t deal with this, go away and stop bothering us” and probably a huge sense of alienation - the blacktwitter memes, concerns, trending topics that make a community aren’t on “here”, and most individuals aren’t able to bring an entire social graph onto a new place.
There was quite a bit of meta-drama on fedi around BIPOC people being told to CW racism. But that’s a far, far cry from “levels of racist abuse unseen on commercial platforms”.
This seems very on-topic and in-depth: https://techpolicy.press/the-whiteness-of-mastodon/
Hmm, that was a long and convoluted read.
He kinda makes some vague valid criticism, but no real suggestion on how to improve things. And the few things that he does suggest (all black instance) he realized himself are not really a good idea and overall are quite unimaginative of what we could build in the Fediverse together.
And ultimately he seems to fall back to an apologetic stance on Twitter (“not that bad”, “black people can endure that”, “in spite of all the problems”) and a “grass isn’t greener” type of argument based on the fear of losing the network-effect that Twitter offers.
Dunno… I admit that as a white person I cannot fully grasp the “inherent whiteness” of the Fediverse in its full extend, but the argument brought forward in this interview leaves me less than convinced that this is really the main problem. It seems more like he is grasping for arguments for why the “Black Twitter” he got used to and is apologetic about needs to somehow survive the Musk takeover.
That, to me, is the crux of it, so I will trust the BIPOC folk when they tell me we need to improve.
Yes, but improve how? The interview tells us more about where the interviewee is on the spectrum of the 7 stages of grief in regards to Twitter than it does about possible ways to make the Fediverse more welcoming for BIPOCs. That it is too “white” can only be fixed by more BIPOCs joining, so that circular logic brings us nowhere.
@poVoq @rysiek following the drama - it was the combination of newcomers to federation not understanding “make your own server with moderation that suits your community” as anything but “we can’t deal with this, go away and stop bothering us” and probably a huge sense of alienation - the blacktwitter memes, concerns, trending topics that make a community aren’t on “here”, and most individuals aren’t able to bring an entire social graph onto a new place.
I don’t know. But I’ll try to listen to BIPOC folk when they talk about it.