I’m not on Twitter, so I get my news elsewhere, but most of the actual pictures I see are from here. So is there some kind of bias where only the fascist imagery gets posted here in the the dunk tank? Or do the libs scrolling through Ukrainian posts on Twitter literally see and ignore fascist imagery on every single post? Like, if they see 1000 Ukrainian soldiers, will they see 1000 fascist symbols?

    • DrCrustacean [any]@hexbear.netEnglish
      64·
      1 year ago

      It makes me so fucking mad how much of this shit you can learn just from their own declassified documents. They’re not even trying to hide it

    • IceWallowCum [he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
      32·
      1 year ago

      I hope I’m alive to see how history will contextualize america’s decades-long nazi support around the world in the context of wwi - russian revolution - wwii - cold war - whatever is coming.

      When we consider the history of all societies to be the history of class struggles, it’s maddening to think that chain of events as capitalists trying everything in their power to keep profits going and growing and combating workers that try to do take the next step. I also think wwii nazism is still not the worst that capitalists can possibly do to stop communism. The worst is still to happen and america will be the actor.

    • Misanthropic_Stork@lemmy.mlEnglish
      30·
      1 year ago

      I’ve spent some time to find an account that’s properly federated to Hexbear just to comment, because wow, if I never doubted that the U.S. were meddling in Ukrainian affairs (what with the leaked phone calls and all that jazz), I can see that the beast is way bigger than expected; it made me understand this server’s perspective better. And to think they don’t even hide it…

      Honestly, even if you all didn’t change your tone but just added this kind of links to your comments, you’d have an easier time convincing people.

      • iie [they/them, he/him]@hexbear.netEnglish
        24·
        1 year ago

        I’ve been on hexbear for years and I didn’t know this tidbit, although I was aware that GLADIO stuff like this has happened. Learn new things every time I visit here lol.

      • Jobasha [comrade/them]@hexbear.netEnglish
        6·
        1 year ago

        If you wish to understand the leftist perspective on the US beyond the “tankies just think everything the US does is automatically bad”, I strongly recommend that you read Killing Hope and The Jakarta Method. Arming and supporting fascists to slaughter and subjugate everything that looked even vaguely socialist or just wanted to be unaligned during the Cold War has been business as usual for many decades and Ukraine is just a bullet point in a very long and bloody list. Fair warning: the stuff in those books can make you extremely angry. I legit had to put Killing Hope down and go do something else after going through the Guatemala chapter to shake off the utter disgust.

        • Misanthropic_Stork@lemmy.mlEnglish
          2·
          1 year ago

          Thanks for the recommendations, and the links! If you’ll allow me the redditism, username checks out. The missing pieces are falling into place, notably about NATO, which I didn’t understand that well the hatred for; going down the rabbit hole of Operation Gladio mentioned by iie, and seeing how they’ve, for instance, supported extremist groups and commissioned terror attacks in my country with the U.S. pulling on the leash was a ride…