• Funderpants @lemmy.ca
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    1 year ago

    These MNP surveys strike me as more a form of advertising their services than a real snapshot into Canadian finances.

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      1 year ago

      While the promoted surveys no doubt serve advertising purposes, and the corp may cherry-pick what they ask and report per their agenda, I have reasonable trust in the results given that the corp paid for the study, and it was done by a large polling company:

      The data was compiled by Ipsos on behalf of MNP LTD between September 5-8, 2023. For this survey, a sample of 2,000 Canadians aged 18 years and over was interviewed. Weighting was then employed to balance demographics to ensure that the sample’s composition reflects that of the adult population according to Census data and to provide results intended to approximate the sample universe.

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        1 year ago

        Yes, but ultimately they’re measuring how someone feels about their ability to absorb a change in bills, not their actual ability to absorb that change. I think these things are likely very different. So a headline like this doesn’t strike me as dire as it sounds.

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          1 year ago

          I tend to think perceived ability to absorb a change in income/bills would be a reasonable estimate of actual ability, but I don’t know much about this stuff and I appreciate your difference of opinion. Your other comment about the different reports for each province revealed to me that they seem to be cherry-picking the most click-baity findings from each individual survey/subsurvey in the reports, so there’s a selective reporting bias at play to create the direness. Independent of this report I do tend to think consumer debt is a big issue

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            1 year ago

            Yes, and you’re right. As a proxy for ability to absorb a change you could do much worse than perceived ability. I’m thinking more technical indicators, mortgage defaults, car loan defaults , and bankruptcy would be more informative. So far we’ve not seen the kind of movement in those indicators that would suggest this gs are as dire as the headline for this post would make people think. I agree though, household non mortgage debt is a big issue in Canada but so far we seem to be handling it.