Two counterarguments:
5 Star General, former President, Dwight D. Eisenhower had this to say about the Military Industrial complex. It rings true today as much as it did in 1961
If we’re linking to the classics: Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler: War Is A Racket
Eisenhower was the main force behind building the Military Industrial complex.
It’s kind of like a drunken, pantsless party guest saying that there’s a bunch of shit and vomit in the bathroom, and that it will certainly be a problem, but they’re going home now, so you should clean it up.
Only instead of shit and vomit, it’s a bunch of rich assholes making money by killing poor people.
So is it somehow less true because he’s the one who shit and vomit everywhere?
https://www.theonion.com/man-always-gets-little-rush-out-of-telling-people-john-1819578998
He was kind of saying “there’s this thing I built that could make all of you really rich, but it’s kind of horrible, you should totally dismantle it instead of using it to get rich”.
When Eisenhower gave that speech in 1961, there were already people screaming about how the military industrial complex was horrific, how it would lead to endless wars, and how it would cause global suffering.
He should name one security argument of supporting “Isreal”.
A political system where the president can say whatever without an opposition is useless…
If only the opposition wasn’t batshit crazy…
Tbf they’re mostly all crazy. Just some are better at hiding it than others.
They’re not the same level of crazy.
The ones who better hide it are not always the more sane nor safe.
More evidence to the contrary today: FBI says Hamas attack on Israel inspiring ‘new level’ of terror threat against US
The head of the FBI warned a congressional hearing on Tuesday that the Hamas attack on Israel has given terrorists inspiration “the likes of which we haven’t seen” since the rise of Isis a decade ago.
Christopher Wray told the US Senate committee on homeland security and governmental affairs that while the terrorism threat had been high throughout 2023, “the ongoing war in the Middle East has raised the threat of an attack against Americans in the United States to a whole other level”.
“We assess that the actions of Hamas and its allies will serve as an inspiration the likes of which we haven’t seen since Isis launched its so-called caliphate years ago,” Wray said.
Original link is paywalled: https://www.ft.com/content/e1758abc-df4c-49d4-ad4f-3f7b5f143305
yes because bombing pali children will save us from a sovergen debt crisis and a bunch of other issues that resulted in the US dumping tens of billions in “foreign aid” while allowing the country to rot with a shitty 2 party system.
but the GDP went up!!!
when was the last time the GDP actually improved your life?
Is “American Security” going to pay off my student loan debts? How about my rent? How about for my medication this month?
No?
Then fuck off.
Ukraine? 100%. This is the best and most cost effective use of US military funding perhaps ever. A hostile (or at least deeply antagonistic) nuclear power is geopolitically neutering themselves in slow motion, and all we have to do is send some crap over and make sure the Ukrainians don’t run out of bullets. We’re destroying the combat effectiveness of what we thought was a peer power for literal pennies on the dollar.
Israel? 😬 the whole thing is a shitshow, and Netanyahu’s strategies have been and continue to be obviously unworkable in the long term.
Why is this moron still lumping Ukraine and Israel into the same bucket?
He should have just stuck to his most effective presidential policy, wearing cool glasses and having prog-fascists give him cool nicknames.
How are you going to pay for that?!?!
Fuck every single media hack that asked that question over and over in 2020 about m4a and isn’t asking that now
The double standard couldn’t be more blatant. Most media hacks don’t know the truth, and those who do are smart enough to know they’d lose their job for revealing it. YouTuber Second Thought: Why The Government Has Infinite Money
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This. Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy.
I’d never seen this memorial before, so had to Google lens it and realized what the “counterargument” image was.
It’s the memorial at the twin towers after 9/11.
9/11 was blowback from what our government did in our name in the decades prior. The military-industrial complex is protecting neither our liberty nor our security; it’s making line go up for American oligarchs 📈
No I tracked what the whole thing was after I realized what I was looking at. Osama bin Laden and the Mujahideen and the CIA and so on, i just had a moment where brain no work so goodly because I didn’t know i was looking at the twin towers memorial.
“Squares? Military buildings? No…it looks like a memorial. Hmm maybe vietnam? No…eh I’ll just ask google. Oh wow I feel dumb as shit”
It’s actually a double skelly spawner xp grinder
Blow back go brrrrrrr
Fucking clown show lmao
Another counter argument:
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/who-said-war-would-pay-itself-they-did/
It’s interesting how this doesn’t make y’all question the support for Ukraine…
There’s a slight difference between:
- Helping an underdog that got invaded. While the invading force is by the way one of your worst enemies that the sent gear was prepared for anyway.
- Further financing of a state that already has full capabilities to wipe the floor with a largely irrevelant country.
And yet they’re being tied together.
Doesn’t that make you rethink your assumptions at all?
